One has to have a Doctorate Degree to work at the FBI

[Jim Johnson]

...and a PHD to to head a department.


http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-us-canada-11408859

  27 September 2010 Last updated at 12:40 ET

FBI agents cheated on exam using answer sheets.

FBI HQ The FBI is being pressed to investigate further.

FBI agents cheated on an internal exam by conferring, using crib sheets, and finding answers on computers, a Department of Justice probe has found.

Staff were required to take a test on their knowledge of new unified guidelines on domestic investigations.

Suspicions were raised when many passed the 90-minute exam in just 20 minutes.

The authors of the report said "a significant number of FBI employees engaged in some form of improper conduct or cheating".

After the controversial guidelines were introduced, staff were required to take 16.5 hours of classroom tuition and then take a 51-question computerised exam that was expected to take most people between 90 minutes and two hours.

They were allowed access to the guidelines while taking the test, which was mostly sat between May 2009 and January 2010.

The Office of the Inspector General was called in to investigate after 200 workers passed the test in under 20 minutes.

After interviewing staff in a number of field offices, investigators found people taking the exam had conferred, and that direct cheating had been employed.

In one field office, staff had exploited a lack of computer security to call up the answers to the test.

In another office, of 11 workers interviewed, three supervisors and four agents said they had used answer sheets for the exam. Some tried to justify the usage on the basis that these were "notes".

They also found that tutors were "training to the test", indicating which part of lessons would be on the exam by stamping their feet loudly during the relevant sections.

The Office of the Inspector General is recommending that those who directly cheated be disciplined and that there be a wider investigation than the small sample they spoke to.

[Tom Sawyer]

OK Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to the Feds... So the Feds will be going to prison for lying... right?

[Fluff and Stuff]

Activities like these to one degree or another are common practice in the government K-12 schools, government colleges, Army, Census and private corporations I've been involved with.  When I worked at Costco we were given the answers to the government tests along with the questions and told to take the tests.

[AntonLee]

hence why the government is so efficient.

[Jim Johnson]

Activities like these to one degree or another are common practice in the government K-12 schools, government colleges, Army, Census and private corporations I've been involved with.  When I worked at Costco we were given the answers to the government tests along with the questions and told to take the tests.

Thank you for minimizing this type of bullshit.

But cheating shows academics to be frauds.  There is nothing worse for an academic then to be shown as a fraud.  Everything they have written as an authority is now void.  Every criminal investigation they have participated in is tainted.  If they have testified in any court, that testimony can now be reconsidered.

It also casts doubt on the crap collages that awarded degrees to those now FBI agents. 

[Free libertarian]

One time my two dogs they uh used the same spot, it ended up being a crap collage...neither dog was licensed though. 

You see Jim, you said collage, but probably meant college and I made a  crappy joke and uh okay I'll stop and get back on topic.      

[Tom Sawyer]

One time my two dogs they uh used the same spot, it ended up being a crap collage...neither dog was licensed though. 

You see Jim, you said collage, but probably meant college and I made a  crappy joke and uh okay I'll stop and get back on topic.   

Dr. Johnson used the term collage because his PhD is in art...

And I would suggest not diverting Dr. Johnson anymore... he will give you a tsk,tsk like you have never had one!


To Mr. Stuff... as a jarhead I never cheated on a test, and I never knew anyone to cheat... well, once they started piss tests people where cheating. But, your point is well taken, you have worked for many unprincipled organizations... you should quit doing that... I did.

[Jim Johnson]

I like the way they put corn in it for texture.

[FreelanceFreedomFighter]

OK Martha Stewart went to prison for lying to the Feds... So the Feds will be going to prison for lying... right?

[Fluff and Stuff]

To Mr. Stuff... as a jarhead I never cheated on a test, and I never knew anyone to cheat... well, once they started piss tests people where cheating. But, your point is well taken, you have worked for many unprincipled organizations... you should quit doing that... I did.

In the Army, cheating is basic training was very common but I don't even know if it should be called cheating as it was the norm.  Even getting into the Army was like cheating because recruiters told people to hold information back.  Oh yes, I certainly know of cheating on piss tests, also.