Incredible statement by Tom Tancredo in 3rd debate.

[E-ville]

After watching them this is what i saw..

If Guliani or Mcain get elected were all screwed... and not just screwed but raped with a locomotive.

Those guys are fricken psyco. Imagine those guys with the power that the president now thinks he has, There the death of America waiting to happen. Why are we worried about terrorists, there fricken mayors and representitves..

But then again were not the sheeple, so were preaching to the choir.

[CNHT]

When westerners told the emperor of China to change from word symbols to phonetic letters, he told them to change, because dozens of different languages could all understand the same symbol.

Tancredo lost all credibility for me in the 2nd debate when he made the point of dissing Ron Paul in a Judas sort of way - paraphrase: "Ron, you're my friend, but you're wrong that we deserved to be attacked."

I thought I was the only one who heard that.  Up to that point, I thought that Tancredo, while pretty much a statist, was a pretty honest guy.  After he tried to score a few points by piling on, I lost all respect for him.

Not to mention his assessment of the statement was erroneous. Ron never said we 'deserved' to be attacked, he just said we anger our enemies by meddling with them as they have told us.

[CNHT]

hillary explained... so its proably not true that if we select an offical language the government can not print papers in other languages...

English has always been the 'de facto' official language in this country and other countries even require people learn it because it is the language of capitalism. By declaring it such you would RELIEVE businesses and schools of the burden of having to make translations to 93 other languages. No one can demand it. My relatives never did and their kids did fine in school. They made it a point to learn.

However, that does not mean to say you CANNOT freely print things in other languages like literature and signs so it should not be interpreted that way. It is not a prevention thing, it's a freedom thing. It is saying that the government cannot make you print things in another language.

So if you want to do business with the little chinese store down the block and they dont speak English, you will figure it out on your own, like a good little libertarian.

[supperman15]

government shouldnt make you use any language as a private citizin.  This should be about the language that the government uses and yes we can pass a law that limits the govermnet to one language, or we can leave it how it is to forve the government to do its do dilagence, at the end of the day i just dont think we should be legislating about language...
now you in your busness should be able to operate in whatever language you want, if you want to be uni, by, or milti lingual it will effect your buisness acordingly.

[citizen_142002]

Jane, generally official languages are mandatory. It is entirely resonable to believe that business would be required to use ONLY english.

I don't think we need to codify English. The children of immigrants are almost alway bilingual and their children will likely not even speak the mother tongue. Certain areas of the US have seen heavy, one could say overwhelming immigration, but now the Italians, Irish, Germans, and Poles all speak English without a law. Recent Hispanic immigration is no different, even though some people try to make it seem like every other group go off the boat and learned English in two months.

If there is a law that mandates the schools to provide translators then that's ridiculous, and also mandatory multilingualism which I don't support either.

[CNHT]

Mandatory for government bureaucracy to use only English to save money? YOU BET. But it has nothing to do with commercialism. Nothing whatsoever.

If there is a law that mandates the schools to provide translators then that's ridiculous, and also mandatory multilingualism which I don't support either.

Where have you been? It's the law that government agencies and public schools MUST print everything in however many languages the people use.
In my city it was 66 in some it's numbering somewhere in the 90s.

If English is official, then others will be more eager to learn it, such as MY FAMILY DID, in order to do business with the current residents.
It would not PREVENT anyone from printing things in other languages, that's absurd! It would prevent that they be REQUIRED TO however.

[lildog]

It's the law that government agencies and public schools MUST print everything in however many languages the people use.

Exactly!

When my grandparents came here from Italy they learned English because it helped them advanced and better themselves.  If others wish to better themselves they should likewise learn the languages of those who are higher on the social economic ladder then they are.  Sure you can get a job translating for those below you but that's an exception to the rule.  Generally you want to communicate with those better off then you.

When the government talks about multi language communication they talk about forcing those of us who speak English to be forced to learn Spanish to allow us to communicate with those who break the laws coming into this country and who are in turn too lazy to learn the language of those economically above them.  I find that as an insult to families like mine who did work hard to make it in this country and chose to better themselves rather then force everyone around to accommodate them.

[CNHT]

Yeah! My abuela was a model libertarian.

She had her shotgun under her pillow and used it to fight off an intruder when the business was broken into. This was before restrictive gun laws came into being.

In order to conduct business in English, she and poppy watched TV and read newspapers. Her children learned English just fine in school WITHOUT mandatory translations.

And, the family was so successful through their HARD WORK and INDIVIDUALISM that when someone had a baby out of wedlock they thought enough of the family that they left the little darling on grandma's doorstep, which tells me they thought this was the kind of family that would be able to take care of another child even though they already had four.

[Brock]

My god, who replaced Jane with the government newspeaker today?

"Freedom is slavery."
"More government for less government."
"We have always been at war with EastAsia."

[CNHT]

My god, who replaced Jane with the government newspeaker today?

"Freedom is slavery."
"More government for less government."
"We have always been at war with EastAsia."

I am not sure I understand that comment...?

[Brock]

Usually I look forward to your posts.  You bring sanity and clarity.

Today, you are certainly taking a "more government is good government" angle, though.  It's not becoming.

[CNHT]

Usually I look forward to your posts.  You bring sanity and clarity.

Today, you are certainly taking a "more government is good government" angle, though.  It's not becoming.

I don't see how you interpret it that way? I am taking the 'bigger government is worse government' stance as I always have.

Making sure they don't require us to print 90 languages is less government. Making sure we aren't divided up into regions that the UN will oversee and tax us 'worldwide' to equalize, which is their goal whether you think so or not, is necessary for freedom because it gives us choice. One world under one central authority and there's no limit to what they can and will do with regard to taxation and ID...and all the other things that take away freedom.

Why do we have individual states in the USA? So we could have state's rights instead of being under federal law.

I am never advocating for bigger government, just advocating that we maintain CHOICE.

I suggest that many of you read up on Agenda 21 to see how it has infiltrated both parties in our federal government and even has reached its tentacles down into the towns with these 'global warming' resolutions and such. Who do you think is promoting that?

World Council of Churches was set up by the UN. Is it any wonder the NH Council of Churches (mainly the UU) is against the anti-tax pledge and also put that on town ballots this year?

What was Goals 2000 and is NCLB really about? Have you ever worked in a public school?

Please, I urge you to do some reading before you accuse me, of all people, of advocating for bigger government. Because there would be nothing bigger than a central authority with a consitution that grants rights from the government, rather than self-determined birth rights.