Ben Stone shows how Civ Dis is "IN the system" activism, ie, ineffectual/counter

[jaqeboy]

Here's Ben Stone's article laying out how civil disobedience is "in the system" and ineffectual / counter-productive to libertarian goals. This is basically what I've been saying privately for uh, decades. I try not to criticize movement activists publicly, though.

Here's the conclusion:

Both of these definitions regard civil disobedience as a rejections of a specific law, but an endorsement of the existing system as a whole, because the activist not only expects, but accepts punishment as part of the demonstration. It is an anticipated part of activism inside the system. So, no matter the intention of the anarchist, an act of civil disobedience is an act of protest, but ultimately an act of submission to the authority of the government.

Civil disobedience is in the same category as voting, petitioning, lobbying, speaking at a town hall, writing letters to representatives, political donations, volunteering for a political campaign, jury nullification and others. Civil disobedience doesn't fulfill the long term goal of the anarchist (libertarian).

and here's the article:
http://dailyanarchist.com/2013/09/21/beyond-civil-disobedience/

I hope Ben's doing well. I heard he had a stroke or something.

[Russell Kanning]

I guess depending on how you define civil disobedience.
Nice to see you stepping up to the plate and swinging away.

[jaqeboy]

Hi, Rusel 
Hope I don't strike out, eh?

I guess depending on how you define civil disobedience.
Nice to see you stepping up to the plate and swinging away.

[Free libertarian]

Well alot of people have tried being civilly obedient and that didn't work either.   

[jaqeboy]

Well alot of people have tried being civilly obedient and that didn't work either.   

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