Flag fight

[Tunga]

Not sure if this is help or hindrance but here's a couple of thoughts for you.
If jurors, when they answer the call to duty, swear to being "US citizens" as defined by the nulity known as the 14 Amendment, and if Russell is instead really a "National of the United States of America" as defined by the US Code in title 8 section 1101 21.22.B , and also section 1408 4. A.B. then the jury would not be composed of his "peers", and he could not get a fair trial.

Also the yellow fringed flag behind the Judge is acutally a sign that the courtroom is under Admiralty law where you are guilty until proven innocent. Getting that flag out of the court room and having it replaced with Old Glory is key. A civilian cannot be tried by the military as long a civil law prevails. A victim of such a tribunal can not "understand" the charges leveled against him as long as he is being tried in the wrong jurisdiction.

Good luck.
Rerum Natura
Tunga

[KBCraig]

Also the yellow fringed flag behind the Judge is acutally a sign that the courtroom is under Admiralty law where you are guilty until proven innocent.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

[Tunga]

Kevin you crack me up.

What do you mean?  ???

Is the Red White and Blue sometimes yellow too?

You think thats just a frilly adornment? It's a desecration sir. That is what it is. That's what it will always be.

[KBCraig]

Doesn't matter if it's a frilly adornment or a desecration. Doesn't matter if it's yellow, purple, or imaginary. The size and shape and adornment of a flag does not bestow legal authority.

The nationality of a vessel's flag determines which nation's laws it operates under, but there is no special "maritime flag". In the United States, all admiralty cases are heard in U.S. district courts, but that doesn't make all cases heard within those courts subject to admiralty law, any more than it makes them subject to civil rules (civil cases are also heard in those same courts).

Flying a flag with fringe, without fringe, upside down, with 13 stars or 48, with vertical stripes, or flying no flag at all, does not confer any authority to a court, nor restrict legal authority. Courts have authority because the law says they do.

Want to change the law? I'm right there with you. But don't spout kook nonsense. You just look foolish.

Kevin

[Tunga]

Then the Judge shouldn't have any problem with removing from the courtroom what any red blooded American would naturally see as an abomination to his liberty. The gold fringed flag has no business on American soil. It is an offensive infringment. Any time it wanders off of a battle field or out of federal jurisdiction it should be incinerated.

[KBCraig]

Then the Judge shouldn't have any problem with removing from the courtroom what any red blooded American would naturally see as an abomination to his liberty.

And if someone doesn't see gold tassels as "an abomination to his liberty", he's not a red blooded American?

[Tunga]

If you were waving Old Glory and I came up to you and spit on it, would you have more than words for me?

[FTL_Ian]

Tunga, you've fallen for PAYtriot bullshit.  There is no authority, because you didn't consent to grant it to them, did you?  It's all a scam, perpetrated by strange armed men in robes and uniforms.

[Fluff and Stuff]

If you were waving Old Glory and I came up to you and spit on it, would you have more than words for me?

I would be mad because you just spit on my property and some flags are very hard to clean   However, I don't stand around and way old glory 

[aries]

Your analasys seems kind of fishy. Even if you are technically correct, no judge is ever going to care.

[Pat McCotter]

The only time anybody would notice the flags in any courtroom is if they were not there.

[Pat K]

I don't mind if the flag has fringe, as long as it does not clash with the drapes.

[Lloyd Danforth]

They, probably, just order the gold frilly flags 'cause their prettier

[Tunga]

Your analasys seems kind of fishy. Even if you are technically correct, no judge is ever going to care.

If you ever brought this crap up in front of a Judge he'd scream at you "The 14th Amendment is not on trial here!"

You can guess how you'd be treated after that.

Judges are held hostage in this country. Only the people can set them free. Congress ain't gonna do it.

A better approch would be if you had a sworn affidavit that explained in a respectful manner to the court why you were an American and not a subject of militant rule.

The story of the Bastard 14th can be found in the Congressional Record of the House for the date of June 13, 1967 starting on page 15641. This information was forwarded to the NH Secretary of State at that time. A recent search of the NH Archives turned up nothing of the sort however. "What we found from that time was a bunch of boxes in, well just a big mess."

Your local library might have a copy of the Record on Microfilm. The State Library in Concord does.

If folks look at the frilly flag in a different way than they do Old Glory then I have made my point.

[intergraph19]

Also the yellow fringed flag behind the Judge is acutally a sign that the courtroom is under Admiralty law where you are guilty until proven innocent.

Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit.

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