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Fish raid: contraband Koi

Started by KBCraig, July 25, 2006, 02:09 AM NHFT

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KBCraig

Okay, so this actually took place in Maine, but a Portsmouth pet shop came to the rescue.

Game Wardens tend to be among the biggest abusers of their law enforcement authority, and they usually have full state sanction in doing so. In Texas (and all surrounding states of which I'm aware), a game warden can enter any property, and search anywhere, all without a warrant, to check for illegal game.

It took two uniformed game wardens, a state biologist, and local police, all to seize 10 koi from a tank?  ::)

http://hosted.ap.org/dynamic/stories/N/NH_FISH_SEIZURE_NHOL-?SITE=NHMAL&SECTION=STATE&TEMPLATE=DEFAULT

Jul 24, 5:27 PM EDT

Restaurant owner shaken by seizure of fish from tank

FREEPORT, Maine (AP) -- Armed game wardens seized 10 exotic fish from the tank of a popular Chinese restaurant, leaving its owner shaken and outraged.

"They treated me like a criminal," said Cuong Ly, who escaped from Vietnam 25 years ago. "I lived under communism and I felt like I'm back there again."

Ly, 45, said his pet koi were like family members and their confiscation in what he described as a heavy-handed raid made him "want to explode inside."

After obtaining a search warrant, two uniformed wardens and a biologist, accompanied by Freeport police, visited China Rose on Wednesday, taking away the 10 fish that ranged in size from 12 to 14 inches.

The koi had been on display since Ly opened the restaurant nearly 15 years ago and he credited them for bringing good luck to the business in a way akin to the arrangement of articles in the ancient Chinese practice of feng shui.

A few years ago, however, Maine outlawed the importation and possession of koi, and Ly was charged with importing freshwater fish without a permit.

"These fish can grow to be very large," said Sgt. Tim Spahr of the Maine Warden Service. "And when they grow out of their indoor habitat, they may be taken to a lake or a river or stream, and what you have is an invasive species that can compete with the native fisheries."

Spahr said wardens had acted in response to a tip but he could not comment on the specifics of Ly's case while it was pending. The warden said he personally had been involved in three koi seizure cases within the past year.

The confiscation, Ly said, followed two days of warden visits to the restaurant in downtown Freeport, down the street from L.L. Bean. On July 17, he said, a warden warned him that the fish were illegal and he could face a big fine.

"We thought they were joking. We had these fish for years and we didn't take them serious," Ly said.

A warden who arrived the next day with a video camera issued Ly a summons.

That incident, according to Ly, came during the business lunch period and he told the warden that he didn't have time to talk just then. The warden left, only to return the next morning to confiscate the fish.

"It looked like they were raiding the place for illegal drugs," he said. "They made it seem like a crime scene."

The koi were transported to the Little Shop of Pets in Portsmouth, N.H., which agreed to let Ly buy them back.

Ly, which planned to place his koi with a relative in Boston while awaiting the final outcome, said he could not bear losing the fish.

"It's like someone taking your dog or your cat away," he said. "These are like my children. I clean the tank every other week, keep them nice and healthy, clean and happy. As long as the fish are happy, I'm happy, and I do good business."

After the koi were removed, Ly placed another fish species, red parrots, in the restaurant tank because leaving it empty would give him an unlucky feeling.

Even so, he said bad luck struck the restaurant soon after the loss of the koi.

"The central air conditioning went down this weekend," he said. "It's an unlucky feeling already appearing in my business."


tracysaboe

At least he wasn't able to get them back -- even if he had to pay for them.

That's just sick though.

Tracy

Dreepa

Quote from: KBCraig on July 25, 2006, 02:09 AM NHFT

The koi had been on display since Ly opened the restaurant nearly 15 years ago and he credited them for bringing good luck to the business in a way akin to the arrangement of articles in the ancient Chinese practice of feng shui.

A few years ago, however, Maine outlawed the importation and possession of koi, and Ly was charged with importing freshwater fish without a permit.


So he has had them for 15 years  and a few years ago they made the law.

Quote from: KBCraig on July 25, 2006, 02:09 AM NHFT
"They treated me like a criminal," said Cuong Ly, who escaped from Vietnam 25 years ago. "I lived under communism and I felt like I'm back there again."
Interesting quote.

Kat Kanning


Otosan

I know tracy made a comment....but is so stupid and unbelievable it needs repeating..

The koi were transported to the Little Shop of Pets in Portsmouth, N.H., which agreed to let Ly buy them back.

They steal his fish, and he gets to buy them back?  Does that not read like blackmail?  :P

stupid Gov...

tracysaboe

Yeah. If this was a free lance criminal that stole it and it happened to wind up in the hands of somebody else. Legally it would be determined that they were stolen property and should go back to the original owner.

But when the state does it, there's no legal system to bring that sort of justice.

Tracy