Manchester has a good problem to have

[tracysaboe]

You guys are belittling the problem, but I for one would not want my neighbors piling abandoned cars and trash in their yards either.

Honestly. Do you honestly think that there would be cars and trash piled high in every other neighborhood if their were no zoning laws?

Please.

TRacy

[Ruger Mason]

The problem is that the theft has already occured.  How do you untangle it?

You don't.  You acknowledge the facts on the ground, make your case for a private restitution through an argument to morality, and then hope that "justice" is acheived.  If not, then at least the state-sponsored violence has ended.  Same thing with zoning.  Make zoning the de facto deed restrictions, and let people change the restrictions by mutual consent with abbutters, like what would happen in a Free Market situation (as opposed to how it is done now, which is town-wide -- people living on the other side of town deciding for a zoning variance to allow a dog kennel to open up next to your house).

Your solution is precisely the one I advocate.

[Braddogg]

The problem is that the theft has already occured.  How do you untangle it?

You don't.  You acknowledge the facts on the ground, make your case for a private restitution through an argument to morality, and then hope that "justice" is acheived.  If not, then at least the state-sponsored violence has ended.  Same thing with zoning.  Make zoning the de facto deed restrictions, and let people change the restrictions by mutual consent with abbutters, like what would happen in a Free Market situation (as opposed to how it is done now, which is town-wide -- people living on the other side of town deciding for a zoning variance to allow a dog kennel to open up next to your house).

Your solution is precisely the one I advocate.

Oh.  Well, give me another few hours, and I'll find a hole to poke into it.  I'd hate to waste all that time agreeing with you   

[Pat K]

Sorry but all these arguments boil down to, goverment power is good when I like what it does for me.

[Dreepa]

Move to a small town.  Make friends.  Ask to be an alternate on the Zoning Board. 2 years later you will be on the board.  Small towns are Begging for people to be on the Planning Boards and Zoning Boards.
Get 2-3 like minded people and you can start removing the zoning rules.
People would be amazed at how much power they have.

[pounaw]

Zoning kills owning.

Better said by DadaOrwell.

[d_goddard]

Move to a small town.  Make friends.  Ask to be an alternate on the Zoning Board. 2 years later you will be on the board.  Small towns are Begging for people to be on the Planning Boards and Zoning Boards.
Get 2-3 like minded people and you can start removing the zoning rules.
People would be amazed at how much power they have.

Bingo!
Including the power to seriously dilute or dispel that power for themselves and any future office holder, if they can get 1-2 other likeminded people on the same board.

It's not sexy, there's no adrenaline rush, and it takes a few years or working and sitting in boring meetings.
But at the end of the day, you wind up with unequivocally MORE FREEDOM, period.