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Civil disobedience and freedom of movement (RealID, registration, licenses)

Started by penguins4me, February 24, 2007, 06:36 AM NHFT

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penguins4me

In light of my current motto, "plan for the worst, hope for the best", I am doing some research into the risk factors of disobeying automobile registration, licensing, etc. laws. (Unless others are specifically interested in the auto insurance aspect, I won't be analyzing that, as I plan to keep paying for liability and uninsured motorist insurance because I currently find it cost-effective rather than gambling I won't run into someone's new caddy on an icy winter day.) I'll specifically be looking at Wyoming's laws (since I'm a wanna-be FSW kook), but it likely doesn't matter as many humans travel outside their home state at some point and then become subject to more laws, etc.

One major factor I am looking to identify are areas where felony charges are risked, since a felony conviction opens a whole new can of worms, one most folks would prefer to avoid until "the time is right".

Here we go!

Vehicle registration is a doosy: in Wyoming, it's a state felony to drive any unregistered "vehicle" on any "highway" (WS 31-4-101), where "highway" is essentially any public road (WS 31-1-101). This requires a title and proof of insurance, but I don't see where it requires a license - I will have to either call the registration folks for info, or be pointed to the relevant laws.
What are the penalties for driving an unregistered vehicle on public roads in NH?

Driving a vehicle without a license (very likely relevant to RealID-ish crap):
WS 31-7-135 states that no "unlicensed" persons can drive a vehicle on "highways". General penalties are, according to WS 31-7-136, limited to a misdemeanor charge, with penalties up to a $750 fine and/or 6 months in jail for repeated "offenses".
Last I'd checked, all the state reps were opposed to implementing RealID; I am unsure if they are staunchly opposed to the idea in general, or simply because it is another unfunded mandate that the state will have to pay costs for. This is likely the key issue for me - signing up for a national ID run by the feds, containing "all relevant data", and contained in one giant honeypot, has quite clearly crossed the line. That, combined with the above info, means that I see no problem with disobeying an unjust law while still keeping my vehicle and freedom to travel, even if it might mean a stay or two at the ol' crossbar hotel.
What are the corresponding penalties in NH?

These two issues are the only two I'm aware of when it comes to controlling practical freedom of movement within a state. What issues did I miss?
If some of you don't mind incriminating yourself on a public forum, if anyone here has chosen to disobey such laws, what were your action plans in case you were called to account for your choices?

Russell Kanning

Temporary plate

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penguins4me

I don't quite follow you - did you mean you believe it is wise to use a "decoy" plate (which is obviously a vanity plate, not to be confused with a real plate, etc.) instead of nothing at all?

Likely a sound idea to keep some of the busybodies away. ;)

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What's the story behind the "live free or spaz" sticker? :D

Russell Kanning

I wanted to put something fun in the license place area. I will probably put something like a "embassy of heaven" or gadsden flag or republic of nh plate there.

If someone has a good plate they would like to send me, it might just be the best solution. :)

live free or spaz is a FSP sticker .... not my favorite, but....

Russell Kanning

I guess Badnarik is getting a transam to run around austin in with no plate or dl. So we will both be experimenting with freedom to travel the roads of america. :)

penguins4me

I've been doing a little looking around for information on Badnarik and his Trans Am, but haven't found anything more than one minor blurb - has anything more newsy been posted anywhere regarding that?

As for the authority to register vehicles and drivers, "all powers not delegated" to the feds are reserved to the states - are folks tying their arguments against the same to the Fourth Amendment, or is this simply an act of disobedience against bad laws the states may have the authority to enact, but never should have?

For those wondering: I do believe that gov't has a place, and that place is well within the boundaries established by the US Constitution. I'm not anti-gov't, just anti-illegal gov't, where "illegal" can include bad/unjust/overbearing/stupid laws.

Russell Kanning

The trans am story was overheard at the NHLF.

You can write Badnarik an email and ask him about his plans and what "legal" ground he is standing on. I think he believes that he has a "right to travel" as he pleases.

For me ... since the states are the ones creating vehicle reg and drivers licenses ... I would not be appealing to them for help. :)

I don't think it is right for me to stop people from going where they want and I want to travel freely myself ... so I don't use the government to stop others and I don't wait for the government to give me permission. :)

Dreepa

Quote from: Russell Kanning on February 28, 2007, 05:36 AM NHFT
The trans am story was overheard at the NHLF.

You can write Badnarik an email and ask him about his plans and what "legal" ground he is standing on. I think he believes that he has a "right to travel" as he pleases.

He wrote about it in his book.... 'Good to be the King'