The Franconia shootings

[powerchuter]

How many "Waco", "Ruby Ridge", "Carl Drega", "Liko Kenney" incidents have to occur before we form a large enough contingency to make significant changes in the working relationships between people who have thought out "non-aggression" and those who haven't yet "awakened"?

These situations are not all equivalent.  Waco and Ruby Ridge were clearly cases of government agents gone murderously rogue, and I hope they are eventually brought to justice.  Kenney? We don't have a definitive answer yet.

But Drega?  He was a willing participant in his whole drama with the town.  Sure, they messed with him, and he reveled in it, and went out of his way to mess with them right back.  He didn't want to resolve any of the problems, because he wanted the problems to escalate.  He intended to eventually kill some people and die himself, and that's exactly what happened.   

I'm assuming you knew Carl personally?  From what I heard they aggressed against him first...why did they need to do that?  And it wasn't just one person or one "agency"...  They were "spoiling" for him just like McKay was "spoiling" for Kenney...

The ONLY reason people "sport" for a fight of any kind is because of all this direct and indirect aggression, force, and fraud...

I can point out many things in everyone's lives that add to the "boiling point"...I guess we know where Drega and Kenney's "last straw" was...

[powerchuter]

How many "Waco", "Ruby Ridge", "Carl Drega", "Liko Kenney" incidents have to occur before we form a large enough contingency to make significant changes in the working relationships between people who have thought out "non-aggression" and those who haven't yet "awakened"?

These situations are not all equivalent.  Waco and Ruby Ridge were clearly cases of government agents gone murderously rogue, and I hope they are eventually brought to justice.  Kenney? We don't have a definitive answer yet.

But Drega?  He was a willing participant in his whole drama with the town.  Sure, they messed with him, and he reveled in it, and went out of his way to mess with them right back.  He didn't want to resolve any of the problems, because he wanted the problems to escalate.  He intended to eventually kill some people and die himself, and that's exactly what happened.   

I'm assuming you knew Carl personally?  From what I heard they aggressed against him first...why did they need to do that?  And it wasn't just one person or one "agency"...  They were "spoiling" for him just like McKay was "spoiling" for Kenney...

The ONLY reason people "sport" for a fight of any kind is because of all this direct and indirect aggression, force, and fraud...

I can point out many things in everyone's lives that add to the "boiling point"...I guess we know where Drega and Kenney's "last straw" was...

Yes, I knew Drega slightly, and researched the issue pretty thoroughly after the event.  There was more going on than you might be aware of.  You do know that one of the officers he killed was a relative of his?  I also knew another relative of both of them who gave me some context.  My research convinced me that Drega fully intended to go out the way he did.  Well, actually, he seems to have intended a much more spectacular end, and was stockpiling supplies to make lots of bombs.  For whatever reason, he seems to have pulled the trigger before bringing his master plan (whatever that was) to fruition.  He seems to have had no interest in non-violent problem solving, in fact he had no interest in solving his problems at all.  If anything, he wanted more problems, and over the years went out of his way to create them.

I'm quite surprised you weren't able to "settle" him down...
You seem like you would be good at doing that...
That's one of the problems with all the people that "snap"...
They just don't realize how many people are actually "on their side"...
Not the "spectacular end" part...just the incredible aggression and oppression that we live with everyday...
Perhaps you've become more experienced and successful since Carl...