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I hate global warming.

Started by Quantrill, August 03, 2007, 05:53 PM NHFT

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Puke

Quote from: dalebert on August 03, 2007, 09:34 PM NHFT
Quote from: Puke on August 03, 2007, 06:20 PM NHFT
Christ! It hasn't even topped 100? yet. This weather is fantastic!

It hit 100 yesterday in Nashua, my first day in NH. Someone said I brought GA weather with me.


It was you!
The humidity must also be from your Spanish Moss hell-hole.

Fluff and Stuff

I wish I could get some of that NH heatwave.  We are in the middle of 10 days of 99-101 where I live.

David

We'll keep our heat wave thank you very much.  I hate the heat too, and i truly feel for you Quantrill, but I love the cool weather, and am definately looking forward to october. 

dalebert

#18
Global warming theory would mean a lot more effect in the colder months because the air is dryer. MoisterWater vapor in the air tends to overwhelm the greenhouse effect from CO2. Just a bit of science trivia to go along with the bitchin' and moanin'.  ;D

EDIT: Fixed

41mag

#19
Quote from: dalebert on August 05, 2007, 08:00 AM NHFT
Moister in the air tends to overwhelm the greenhouse effect from CO2. Just a bit of science trivia to go along with the bitchin' and moanin'.  ;D
From what I've read, water vapor is also a greenhouse gas (actually it is the largest greenhouse gas).  That would mean that it would have the same effect as carbon dioxide.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: Quantrill on August 03, 2007, 05:53 PM NHFT
Ok seriously, everyone I've talked to has said there is normally only about 2 weeks of "wicked hot" weather in NH.  I work outdoors, and for the last month it has definitely been wicked hot.
http://www.wunderground.com/cgi-bin/findweather/getForecast?query=ICAO:KCON&almanac=1

showing average cooling degree days so far...

until a few days ago ... our summer had been a little cooler than normal ... now it is normal ... and better than last year :)

dalebert

Quote from: 41mag on August 05, 2007, 03:27 PM NHFT
Quote from: dalebert on August 05, 2007, 08:00 AM NHFT
Moister in the air tends to overwhelm the greenhouse effect from CO2. Just a bit of science trivia to go along with the bitchin' and moanin'.  ;D
From what I've read, water vapor is also a greenhouse gas (actually it is the largest greenhouse gas).  That would mean that it would have the same effect as carbon dioxide.

That's correct. Many of the components of our atmosphere are greenhouse gases. Water vapor overwhelms everything else when it's present. Without water vapor, life on earth wouldn't be possible. That's true for CO2 also, but for other reasons- not the greenhouse effect. CO2 makes up a fraction of 1% of the atmosphere. It's kind of counter-intuitive at the least to expect a huge geographic effect from raising it from say .24 of a percent to like .32 (those are out of my ass- don't remember exacts) though it doesn't mean it's not possible of course. It does mean that if there is even a little bit of humidity, the CO2 immediately becomes a negligable factor.

Another bit of trivia is the best thing you can possibly do for agriculture is raise CO2 content in the air. Those little fractions of a percent aren't huge in terms of greenhouse effect, but they are huge in terms of the effect on plant growth. It's like Popeye's spinach for plants. They grow significantly faster and become much more resistent to things like disease, parasites, and drought. Back when we had a much high CO2 content in the atmosphere, in dinosaur days, was also when the planet was amazingly green. It's the reason we have lots of oil now.

KBCraig

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15391426/site/newsweek/

Oct. 23, 2006 - In April, 1975, in an issue mostly taken up with stories about the collapse of the American-backed government of South Vietnam, NEWSWEEK published a small back-page article about a very different kind of disaster. Citing "ominous signs that the earth's weather patterns have begun to change dramatically," the magazine warned of an impending "drastic decline in food production." Political disruptions stemming from food shortages could affect "just about every nation on earth." Scientists urged governments to consider emergency action to head off the terrible threat of . . . well, if you had been following the climate-change debates at the time, you'd have known that the threat was: global cooling.

Russell Kanning

btw ... for those watching the weather reports from us here .... it got all the way up to 70 yesterday. I had to wear pants to keep warm .... in August!

error

Quote from: Russell Kanning on August 07, 2007, 05:45 AM NHFT
btw ... for those watching the weather reports from us here .... it got all the way up to 70 yesterday. I had to wear pants to keep warm .... in August!

It got DOWN to 70 last night. Today you'll be stripping off those pants when it gets up to 90!

dalebert

Someone mentioned a Keene weather phenomenan on one of the tours but it was never addressed. What were they talking about? Is there something about the geography that makes Keene weather unusual?

Lloyd Danforth

Yes, during the third week of January when the rest of the state is an ice cube, the temperature in Keene climbs into the mid 80's, with constant sun, palm trees have been known to suddenly sprout out of the earth......................

EthanAllen

QuoteAnother bit of trivia is the best thing you can possibly do for agriculture is raise CO2 content in the air. Those little fractions of a percent aren't huge in terms of greenhouse effect, but they are huge in terms of the effect on plant growth. It's like Popeye's spinach for plants. They grow significantly faster and become much more resistent to things like disease, parasites, and drought. Back when we had a much high CO2 content in the atmosphere, in dinosaur days, was also when the planet was amazingly green. It's the reason we have lots of oil now.

The problem is that habitats change far too quickly for the plants and animals that either need to migrate or adapt leading to mass extinctions.

Russell Kanning

Quote from: dalebert on August 07, 2007, 06:31 AM NHFT
Someone mentioned a Keene weather phenomenan on one of the tours but it was never addressed. What were they talking about? Is there something about the geography that makes Keene weather unusual?
Sometimes we get a little less from a storm or are a little warmer than the surrounding area. I would guess it is because we are the only decent sized valley for a little ways in all directions. It wouldn't make it better than where you are at right now. :)

Otosan

If it was not for "global warming"... you would be up to your buttocks in snow!   ;D

Love this type/kind/style of weather.  And yes I do work out in it!