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Author Topic: dave ridley harassed for open carry  (Read 28083 times)

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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #15 on: August 04, 2007, 08:00 PM NHFT »

I'm curious...have there been any incidents like this in Keene?
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #16 on: August 04, 2007, 08:16 PM NHFT »

Listening to that made me sick! It seems to me that is a completely illegal stop and detainment. Here are some links http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Terry_v._Ohio
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reasonable_suspicion

I'll be there soon (hopefully soon enough) and walk right with you Dave! :icon_pirat:

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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #17 on: August 04, 2007, 08:22 PM NHFT »

Listening to that made me sick! It seems to me that is a completely illegal stop and detainment.

I doubt it.  The cops are allowed to stop you at anytime.  The cops are allowed to hold you for hours and hours.  It seems legal.

This is what some cops do.
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #18 on: August 04, 2007, 08:33 PM NHFT »

I'm curious...have there been any incidents like this in Keene?

Yes. Dave told me today that he had been harassed while open carrying in Keene.
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #19 on: August 04, 2007, 08:36 PM NHFT »

I doubt it.  The cops are allowed to stop you at anytime.  The cops are allowed to hold you for hours and hours.  It seems legal.

This is what some cops do.

yawn
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #20 on: August 04, 2007, 08:59 PM NHFT »

I'll be there soon (hopefully soon enough) and walk right with you Dave! :icon_pirat:

Jeremy
that sounds like a great plan :)
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #21 on: August 04, 2007, 09:02 PM NHFT »

50 people open carrying to the MVP meeting next month?
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #22 on: August 04, 2007, 09:06 PM NHFT »

I'm curious...have there been any incidents like this in Keene?

Yes. Dave told me today that he had been harassed while open carrying in Keene.

A different Dave...when his own brother called the cops on his as a prank.
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #23 on: August 04, 2007, 09:15 PM NHFT »

50 people open carrying to the MVP meeting next month?
anyone got a toy gun for me?
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #24 on: August 04, 2007, 09:31 PM NHFT »

I went through the 15 minutes and amplified the audio when Russel and the cop talk so that it can be heard. Some of it is still not clear enough to be heard though. Feel free to put this link earlier in the thread with the original audio link.

http://www.iknowmyrights.com/opencarry.mp3
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #25 on: August 04, 2007, 09:47 PM NHFT »

anyone got a toy gun for me?

Come on Russell…a gun is only as bad or as good as the person holding it.
It’s a lot like the Government, where the person who does not wish to hold the gun probably should be the one holding the gun.
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #26 on: August 04, 2007, 10:20 PM NHFT »

Dada, that was fantastic. You were calm, collected, logical, informative, and firm. I'm hopeful that on that day the police learned something about what freedom is.

So many of the things I'd heard the policeman say upset me, specifically the "not allowed to gather" - enumerated freedom of assembly, anyone? - the excuse of the presumed "freedom from fear" (which isn't even applicable in this case), etc.; I'm very happy to be able to hear it "first-hand", as it were.

Without getting into details (and mods, please delete/edit if this wasn't already addressed), how did you justify "recording" the conversation to porc411? I don't need to be convinced - NH is dead wrong on the issue, but the issue may cause problems for those involved.

As for myself, since Nevada *seems* to allow subjects to record oral conversations with the consent of only one party, I need to find a small, durable, and hopefully inexpensive audio recorder to use if/when I have any interaction with the gov't. Any suggestions right off the top of some folks' heads?
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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #27 on: August 04, 2007, 10:42 PM NHFT »

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Re: Dave Ridley harassed by Gestapo
« Reply #29 on: August 04, 2007, 11:08 PM NHFT »

As for myself, since Nevada *seems* to allow subjects to record oral conversations with the consent of only one party, I need to find a small, durable, and hopefully inexpensive audio recorder to use if/when I have any interaction with the gov't. Any suggestions right off the top of some folks' heads?

http://www.hellodirect.com/hellodirect/Shop?DSP=30102&PCR=1:1:5:30:290&IID=13323&itemskuid=13323

You can plug the recorder directly into your computer.

PM me if you're interested.  I can get products from this company for pretty cheap.
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