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dave ridley harassed for open carry

Started by slim, August 04, 2007, 10:31 AM NHFT

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Kat Kanning


kola

Here in Colorado they stopped selling guns/rifles at WalMart. I asked the store managers why. They told me they were not selling enough to make a profit so they were pulling them. About 2 months later I noticed they were back in the stores. I asked why the change...and was told that so many people complained and wrote letters (me) that they
re thought their position and began selling them again. 

good news for us..I had thought Bushco was behind them pulling the guns...but since they are back on the shelfs who the hell knows what happened.

Kola

Russell Kanning

no emails back from the department of safety or the MPD ... I guess they have no comment.

JellyFish

Dave you, did the right thing. Great work. You held their feet to the fire in a polite, respectful way. They had no business detaining you.

I sent the chief of police of manchester the email below. I think they need to hear from the public so that they understand that we don't consider stopping people just because they have a gun acceptable.

Here is my email:

Chief Jaskolka,

I was dismayed to see the video on youtube at
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5FWXnK5UyRI of a NH resident being
stopped and accosted by some of your police officers. I saw no reason
whatsoever for him to have been stopped in the first place. He seemed
to have done nothing except to walk up the street with his pistol on
his hip, much like your officers do each day.

So I have some questions for you, chief.

1. Do you have a training program set up that teaches your officers
that open carry is legal and that people have a right to do so in New
Hampshire without fear of harassment?

2. Didn't this issue come up a while back with somebody else too? I
thought after that that your officers would have a better
understanding and would refrain from detaining people who are open
carrying in Manchester.

Something really needs to be done to make sure that your officers and
other officers around the state fully understand that open carry is
legal and acceptable in New Hampshire. This kind of situation should
not be repeated again.

I respect and appreciate the work that you and your officers do to
keep people safe and I thank you for it. However, isn't it time that
you guys put a concerted effort into making sure that lawful people
are not harassed when exercising their constitutional rights? If you
do have something set up already then please let me know what it is,
the officers in the video seemed far too confrontational (particularly
the one that was standing behind Dave with the sunglasses on...what
was that all about?) and they ended up drawing a crowd that wasn't
there initially.

Although I don't get into Manchester too often, I will certainly be
open carrying there at some point and I hope your officers will handle
it the appropriate way - by refraining from bothering me so I can go
about my business in a lawful, productive way.

Thank you in advance for any comments or thoughts you have about open
carry and your officers.

JellyFish

There is also a thread about this over at Northeast Shooters so drop by there if you want to share your thoughts with the folks over there.

http://northeastshooters.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=23051

JellyFish

BTW, here is the contact information for the Manchester PD:

John A. Jaskolka, Chief of Police

The Manchester Police Department
351 Chestnut Street
Manchester, NH 03101

Phone: (603) 668-8711
Fax: (603) 628-6145

Email: ManchesterPD@ci.manchester.nh.us

JellyFish

BTW, someone pointed out to me that the main guy was actually a New Hampshire DPS guy. I found some contact information for that department but only one email address.

Administrative Supervisor
epierce@safety.state.nh.us

http://www.nh.gov/safety/commissioner/contactus.html

Commissioner's Office
Contact Us

Mailing Address:    Department of Safety
James H. Hayes Safety Building
33 Hazen Drive
Concord, NH 03305
Headquarters' Location:    Department of Safety
James H. Hayes Safety Building
33 Hazen Drive
Concord, NH 03305
Holiday Schedule:    2007
Hours of Operation:    Monday through Friday - 8:15 a.m. to 4:15 p.m.
Telephone Numbers and e-mail addresses:
   
Commissioner's Office: 603-271-2791
Assistant Commissioner's Office: 603-271-2559
Administrative Supervisor: 603-271-2559
Prosecution Unit: 603-271-7665
Public Information Officer: 603-271-2231
Railroad Police: 603-271-2559
TDD Access: Relay NH 1-800-735-2964

FTL_Ian

Quote from: sjhipple on August 06, 2007, 06:20 PM NHFT
How were you able to record the officer? I thought that wasn't legal in NH

I am no expert, but as I understand of the law has to do with recording people without their knowledge.  Having a visible camera in a public place should not violate the law.

"On the job, on the record."

Russell Kanning

If anyone hears from the government about this, please let me know so I can add it to my Keene Free Press article.


Yes .... the NH Department of Safety pulled over and interrupted Dave's walk.
The other 5 guys that came were MPD cops.

Russell Kanning

3600 views and lots of comments at youtube

does it only count a "view" when someone completes the video?

dalebert

#160
I was looking at this video page and noticing it's not linked to lots of anti-semetic stuph like the more recent video, so I checked the tags and noticed there are a lot more tags. Maybe we can add some tags to the latest video to get more accurate associations. I'd like to also recommend putting "Dave" and "Ridley" and hopefully more of Dave's other videos will pop up as well like some from Porcfest.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mu4Dr3B3Rg4

mvpel

It's important to note that it was a Statie, not a Manchester cop, who stopped Dave in the first instance.

Russell Kanning

that is a good idea Tackletheworld could do it

Russell Kanning

Quote from: mvpel on August 08, 2007, 10:52 AM NHFT
It's important to note that it was a Statie, not a Manchester cop, who stopped Dave in the first instance.
and one probably ultimately taking orders from DHS

when the MPD guys hauled off Kat and I it was initiated by SS

JellyFish

It's important to note that it was a Statie, not a Manchester cop, who stopped Dave in the first instance.

Okay so do we contact the NH Depart of Public Safety? Or is it some other organization that we need to contact to let the know that we dont' approve of this? Please post the info if you have it.

I have already sent a letter to the Manchester PD.