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The Alleged Law Requiring Payment of Income Tax

Started by Zenman, August 04, 2007, 11:02 PM NHFT

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penguins4me

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I haven't bothered, 'cause if I'm going to do something, I won't be doing it half-assed, but word on the street is if you vastly increase your exemptions on your W-4, you can mostly or completely eliminate withholding for the fed income tax. Supposedly there aren't any laws against that, but do your own research before you leap. Also, I doubt it would go over well with your HR person: "you have ninty-WHAT kids??"


Quote"You must work here!  It's mandatory!"  Courts tend not to be sympathetic to people who are so dumb as to not realize they have a choice of employers.

You're right, though I know of no employers who don't require such, in which case that's a bigger problem. My answer to the problem is to learn to generate my own income, without depending on a company.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: penguins4me on August 06, 2007, 09:23 PM NHFT
I haven't bothered, 'cause if I'm going to do something, I won't be doing it half-assed, but word on the street is if you vastly increase your exemptions on your W-4, you can mostly or completely eliminate withholding for the fed income tax. Supposedly there aren't any laws against that, but do your own research before you leap. Also, I doubt it would go over well with your HR person: "you have ninty-WHAT kids??"

Vernice Kuglin?

MattLeft

Check out losthorizons.com

Pete Hendrickson uses reasoning similar to Cryer's defense:  wages & salary received isn't "income" or "profit" as the IRS specifically define them.

But he goes one step further.  Every W-2 or 1099 filed with the IRS from some current or former employer establishes a presumption that you owe money.  You are legally obligated to refute such false testimony, or else the falsehoods stand.  His strategy uses IRS forms whose very purpose is for amending and refuting W-2's & 1099.  Thus, when April 15th rolls around, people are getting back every penny that was taken from their checks, including FICA, SSI, and all that other crap.  You file your 1040 showing you owe nothing, along with the refutation documents accounting for every 1099/W-2 filed about you, and the IRS refunds EVERYTHING.  Numerous examples abound on the site.

He bases all of this not on chicanery or odd theories, but on actually reading and following the IRS regulations to the letter.

Tons of examples and pix of people's refund checks that send them in.  Cool site, check it out.

LordBaltimore

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on August 06, 2007, 10:10 PM NHFT
Vernice Kuglin?

Kuglin was found not guilty on criminal charges but still had to pay all of the taxes, penalties, and interest.  She has a huge lien against her and her $200,000 salary is being garnished by the IRS down to $285 a paycheck.

LordBaltimore

Quote from: TheDUDE on August 07, 2007, 02:15 AM NHFT
Check out losthorizons.com

Pete Hendrickson uses reasoning similar to Cryer's defense:  wages & salary received isn't "income" or "profit" as the IRS specifically define them.

But he goes one step further.  Every W-2 or 1099 filed with the IRS from some current or former employer establishes a presumption that you owe money.  You are legally obligated to refute such false testimony, or else the falsehoods stand.  His strategy uses IRS forms whose very purpose is for amending and refuting W-2's & 1099.  Thus, when April 15th rolls around, people are getting back every penny that was taken from their checks, including FICA, SSI, and all that other crap.  You file your 1040 showing you owe nothing, along with the refutation documents accounting for every 1099/W-2 filed about you, and the IRS refunds EVERYTHING.  Numerous examples abound on the site.

He bases all of this not on chicanery or odd theories, but on actually reading and following the IRS regulations to the letter.

Tons of examples and pix of people's refund checks that send them in.  Cool site, check it out.

Hendrickson lost his own personal tax case in court a few months ago, and several of followers have been targeted, at least one criminally. He's got a huge target painted on him right now.

When they prosecute him, he'll be toast, considering that he's done time in prison in the past for mailing a bomb to the IRS.

And finally, I think it's horrible that Hendrickson brags about the refund amounts his clients have gotten, but then doesn't reduce that total when the IRS goes after and gets the refund back from the clients.

penguins4me

All this to say, it seems better to simply "quit cold turkey". Start your own business, don't fill out tax forms, don't write letters, just "leave without saying goodbye".

You may end up in a situation like the Browns', but "death is not the worst of evils".

mackler

Quote from: penguins4me on August 07, 2007, 06:02 PM NHFT
All this to say, it seems better to simply "quit cold turkey". Start your own business, don't fill out tax forms, don't write letters, just "leave without saying goodbye".

I tend you agree with you on this. 

That said, for those who are considering the various option, here's another idea:

You run your own business, and you require your customers to pay you in gold or silver eagles.  They're legal tender, but their face value is a small fraction of the actual value.  This way, your supposed "taxable income" can legally be below the income-tax minimum filing requirement.  Yet you can be acquiring enough purchasing power to live at a much higher standard of living than the book value of your revenue (based on the value of FRNs) shows.  A downside is that when you go to pay your property taxes using the coins you'll be giving the government more value than they would get if you paid in FRNs, but you still come out ahead.

E-ville

Quote from: richardr on August 06, 2007, 03:36 PM NHFT
Signing a W-4 isn't mandatory.  But if you don't do it, the employer has to withhold taxes from your check at the maximum possible rate...

IF this is the case then that really helps the slavery aspect of our argument.. What if you say, My accountant takes care of that because of our small home based business is involved.

If you have a home business, your taxes are calculated at the end of the year.. and then you find out what you owe because if you take big deductions it that will lessen the taxes..

I would really seek a accountant on this.. but most are under the same brainwashing that all other sheeple are so in love with.