New Taurus Revolver.

[grasshopper]

http://www.taurususa.com/video/taurus-theJudge-video.cfm

   I'm getting one.  I'll be asking Jr. from Jrs Gunsmithing if he can get us a better price on a group buy.  Anybody interested?
  It's a .45 long colt and a .410 shotgun.  The girls would have a BALL with this thing.
   Whatch this film.  This revolver is spicificly designed for close quater combat/carjackings ect.ect...

[Caleb]

Excellent!  I just bought a new (well, it's new to me) Taurus Millenium PT-111. Now, I'm ready to open carry with the big boys!  Mine's not a revolver, though.

[Raineyrocks]

I have a .38 snub nose (?) Taurus and I love it, especially the red laser beam.  I have to get some earplugs though, damn guns are loud!

[Puke]

I saw a video about this weapon a couple months back. I think it's a fantastic design.
The perfect house defense.

[TackleTheWorld]

Ooooh, so tempting.  I've had my eye on "The Judge" for a while.
I already have other Taurus handguns and I like them.  Snazzy styling and reasonable prices.

[KBCraig]

I have serious reservations about "The Judge".

For starters, the name just begs an aggressive prosecutor or civil attorney to ask, "And jury? And executioner?"

But mainly, a .410 out of a short barrel just isn't that effective. It will make holes, but with very little energy. And if you're shooting .45 LC, there are many better platforms.

[Recumbent ReCycler]

"The judge" looks like a fun and somewhat unique revolver, which I may eventually want to buy, although at the moment I don't have the money to buy one and have been selling some of my guns to cover my bills.  Given the choice, I would prefer to have a suppressed semiauto handgun for vehicle defense because in a carjacking scenario, you wouldn't have time to put ear plugs in, and just one shot with an unsuppressed handgun in an enclosed area (like a car or a house) can cause significant permanent hearing damage.  Unfortunately you either have to have a manufacturing license ($800 for the first year) or pay a $200 tax on each one to make suppressors, and if you want to buy them, you have to pay a $200 transfer tax on each one.  Because of the high tax and the fact that some states have restrictions on suppressors, people buy fewer of them and manufacturers have a higher overhead per suppressor sold, so costs are very high compared to countries that have no restrictions on the use or possession of suppressors.  In NH, hunters are prohibited from using suppressors while hunting by RSA 207:4, unless they have a depredation permit, which I have found out are not issued to people who do not own farms.  Even if you do own a farm, you have to be able to show that animals have been causing significant damage to your crops or livestock before they might consider issuing a depredation permit.  I would like to see RSA 207:4 repealed.  One disadvantage that you have with a revolver is that most of them release hot gasses from between the cylinder and barrel, so a suppressor would not have an appreciable effect on the noise level, although it would in most cases reduce recoil.

[Raineyrocks]

I have a .38 snub nose (?) Taurus and I love it, especially the red laser beam.  I have to get some earplugs though, damn guns are loud!

Even shooting once without hearing protection can permanently damage your hearing. 

Disposable foam plugs are sold most anywhere, usually for under a dollar a pair.  Protect your hearing before you go shooting again.

Great, I've shot it a lot without ear plugs and now I have trouble hearing whenever there is some noise in the background and Rick has trouble too. I thought he might be losing his hearing because A: He's married to me or B: He's 11 years older than me.

[Russell Kanning]

talking about and cleaning guns doesn't hurt your ears

[Bald Eagle]

Given the choice, I would prefer to have a suppressed semiauto handgun for vehicle defense because in a carjacking scenario, you wouldn't have time to put ear plugs in, and just one shot with an unsuppressed handgun in an enclosed area (like a car or a house) can cause significant permanent hearing damage.  ....  In NH, hunters are prohibited from using suppressors while hunting by RSA 207:4, unless they have a depredation permit, which I have found out are not issued to people who do not own farms.  ....  One disadvantage that you have with a revolver is that most of them release hot gasses from between the cylinder and barrel, so a suppressor would not have an appreciable effect on the noise level, although it would in most cases reduce recoil.

Gut shot.  Use the aggressor's body to suppress the muzzle blast.  The escaping gases entering the body cavity also act as a spectacular deterrent to continuing a life of crime - or to a life of any sort for that matter.

With a long enough barrel, and appropriate choice of caliber, a suppressor may not be necessary.  Just get right up close and go for the head shot.  But I would agree that lots of RSA's including 207:4 need to go away ASAP.

I've got a Nagant revolver that moves the brass case INTO the barrel, thus sealing up the gap.  Approx. $75 apiece from places like Southern Ohio Gun (SOG), etc.  Ammo is about 17 bucks for a box of 20, or $35 for the current manufacture Fiocchi.

[KBCraig]

Never attempt a contact shot with a semi-auto. (Not if you have a choice, that is.)

The contact can push the slide out of battery just enough that the gun won't fire.

[Raineyrocks]

Gut shot.  Use the aggressor's body to suppress the muzzle blast.  The escaping gases entering the body cavity also act as a spectacular deterrent to continuing a life of crime - or to a life of any sort for that matter.

There are two problems with this idea.

First, you will still get a fair amount of noise, since the muzzle area is not actually sealed by what you are shooting into.  Second, being that close to someone you shoot puts you at significant risk for biological contamination.  When you are actually in a fight, you tend to be sucking air in fast with your mouth wide open.  Remember that criminals' bodies tend to be disease factories, and blood and tissue spraying into your mouth and mucous membranes would infect you with whatever the criminal had. 

Gross, but that's a good point I never thought of, thanks!

[KBCraig]

Never attempt a contact shot with a semi-auto. (Not if you have a choice, that is.)

The contact can push the slide out of battery just enough that the gun won't fire.

Unless your semi-auto has an alternative force block.

I have to say, I hadn't heard of that one until I googled it. And it ranks right up there with the very expensive, very bad ideas. Have to have a T10 driver to field strip? If you were going that route with a 1911, it would make more sense to have a FLGR and mount this thing to the end of that.

http://quanticotactical.com/asp/itemDetail.asp?dispItemNum=729&type=M&CMN=GGG&CMNum=21&CMSNum=64&CMSN=All