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Started by PowerPenguin, August 10, 2007, 02:10 AM NHFT

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EthanAllen

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on August 17, 2007, 04:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: Francois Tremblay on August 13, 2007, 03:14 PM NHFT
"Left-libertarians" are not actually lefties in the common sense of the term. They use "left" in a different way to mean complete freedom.

Semantics in politics is a minefield...

I tend to think of left-libertarians as being leftist in much of their ideology, but sans statism or other forms of coercion.

They see many problems with actually existing capitalist property relationship because of coercion via the state granting of privilege.

EthanAllen

Quote from: Francois Tremblay on August 17, 2007, 06:59 PM NHFT
The header on MoveOn.org says "democracy in action." That right there tells me they're no friends of freedom.

A town hall meeting is democracy in action.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: EthanAllen on August 17, 2007, 08:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on August 17, 2007, 04:05 PM NHFT
Quote from: Francois Tremblay on August 13, 2007, 03:14 PM NHFT
"Left-libertarians" are not actually lefties in the common sense of the term. They use "left" in a different way to mean complete freedom.

Semantics in politics is a minefield...

I tend to think of left-libertarians as being leftist in much of their ideology, but sans statism or other forms of coercion.

They see many problems with actually existing capitalist property relationship because of coercion via the state granting of privilege.

Right, something that a lot of the more right-wing libertarians tend to try to ignore, unfortunately. See some of the attitudes about mortgage contracts flying around in this thread for some prime examples.

Francois Tremblay

I'm not nearly as anti-capitalist as the average political activist, but I think we can do a lot better.