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Feds Train Clergy to "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law

Started by Raineyrocks, August 16, 2007, 01:02 PM NHFT

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Raineyrocks

Here's the link: http://www.infowars.com/articles/ps/feds_train_clergy_to_quell_dissent_during_martial_law.htm



Feds Train Clergy To "Quell Dissent" During Martial Law
Shocking KSLA 12 news report confirms story we broke last year, Pastors to cite Romans 13 as reason for public to obey government orders, relinquish guns and be taken to camps during state of emergency
Prison Planet | August 16, 2007
Paul Joseph Watson

A shocking KSLA news report has confirmed the story we first broke last year, that Clergy Response Teams are being trained by the federal government to "quell dissent" and pacify citizens to obey the government in the event of a declaration of martial law.

In May 2006, we exposed the existence of a nationwide FEMA program which is training Pastors and other religious representatives to become secret police enforcers who teach their congregations to "obey the government" in preparation for the implementation of martial law, property and firearm seizures, mass vaccination programs and forced relocation.

A whistleblower who was secretly enrolled into the program told us that the feds were clandestinely recruiting religious leaders to help implement Homeland Security directives in anticipation of a a potential bio-terrorist attack, any natural disaster or a nationally declared emergency.

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The first directive was for Pastors to preach to their congregations Romans 13, the often taken out of context bible passage that was used by Hitler to hoodwink Christians into supporting him, in order to teach them to "obey the government" when martial law is declared.

It was related to the Pastors that quarantines, martial law and forced relocation were a problem for state authorities when enforcing federal mandates due to the "cowboy mentality" of citizens standing up for their property and second amendment rights as well as farmers defending their crops and livestock from seizure.

It was stressed that the Pastors needed to preach subservience to the authorities ahead of time in preparation for the round-ups and to make it clear to the congregation that "this is for their own good."

Pastors were told that they would be backed up by law enforcement in controlling uncooperative individuals and that they would even lead SWAT teams in attempting to quell resistance.

Though some doubted the accuracy of this report at the time due to its fundamentally disturbing implications, the story has now been confirmed by a KSLA 12 news report , in which participating clergy and officials admit to the existence of the program.

Watch the video.

The report entertains the scenario of martial law as depicted in the movie The Siege and states that "quelling dissent would be critical."

Dr. Durell Tuberville serves as chaplain for the Shreveport Fire Department and the Caddo Sheriff's Office. Tuberville said of the clergy team's mission, "the primary thing that we say to anybody is, 'let's cooperate and get this thing over with and then we'll settle the differences once the crisis is over.'"

Such clergy response teams would walk a tight-rope during martial law between the demands of the government on the one side, versus the wishes of the public on the other. "In a lot of cases, these clergy would already be known in the neighborhoods in which they're helping to diffuse that situation," assured Sandy Davis. He serves as the director of the Caddo-Bossier Office of Homeland Security and Emergency Preparedness.
For the clergy team, one of the biggest tools that they will have in helping calm the public down or to obey the law is the bible itself, specifically Romans 13. Dr. Tuberville elaborated, "because the government's established by the Lord, you know. And, that's what we believe in the Christian faith. That's what's stated in the scripture."


Screenshot from the KSLA 12 news article that accompanies the video report ( http://www.ksla.com/Global/story.asp?S=6937987 ).

So there you have it - Homeland Security are working with local police departments and religious leaders to prepare for the declaration of martial law and in particular developing techniques they will employ during the crisis to "quell dissent."

Phony Christian leaders are brainwashing their congregations to accept the premise that the totalitarian police state is "of the Lord" and that they should get on their knees and lick jackboots while the round-ups take place as citizens are processed into quarantine zones and detention camps by the National Guard and U.S. troops returning from Iraq.

The precedent for mass gun confiscation and martial law in times of a real or manufactured emergency was set during Hurricane Katrina, when police and National Guard patrols forced home owners - even in areas unaffected by the hurricane - to hand over their legally owned firearms at gunpoint .

This is a clear precursor for the imminent declaration of a state of emergency, a scenario that President Bush codified in his recent Presidential Decision Directive of May 9th , which states in the event of a "catastrophic event" the President can take total control over the government and the country, bypassing all other levels of government at the state, federal, local, territorial and tribal levels, and thus ensuring total unprecedented dictatorial power.

The scope of the program is so secretive that even Homeland Security Committee member and Congressman Peter DeFazio was denied access to view the classified portion of the documents.

Raineyrocks

I know I just posted a lot of bad news just now but so much seems to be going on right now. :(

I need to hop over to the "good news" link Error posted a few months ago for a little while now. :)

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: Romans 16:1–71Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.

Nicholas Gilman

QuoteI know I just posted a lot of bad news just now but so much seems to be going on right now.

    Sadly, things will get much worse before they get better, but thats been the case
for centuries.   During the start of the Revolutionary War, Gov. Wentworth didn't believe
the colonial rebels were serious about a revolution until they showed up at the governers
mansion and pointed a cannon at the structure, demanding that he surrender a British
collaborator seeking refuge inside.

   Rainey Rocks, you're just the messenger.   :hello:

Ogre

King James Version:

"Let every soul be subject unto the higher powers"

That one read a bit different, if you ask me.

Raineyrocks

Quote from: Nicholas Gilman on August 16, 2007, 01:48 PM NHFT
QuoteI know I just posted a lot of bad news just now but so much seems to be going on right now.

    Sadly, things will get much worse before they get better, but thats been the case
for centuries.   During the start of the Revolutionary War, Gov. Wentworth didn't believe
the colonial rebels were serious about a revolution until they showed up at the governers
mansion and pointed a cannon at the structure, demanding that he surrender a British
collaborator seeking refuge inside.

   Rainey Rocks, you're just the messenger.   :hello:

Thanks!  I hate that these things are even happening. :)

mvpel

As if a Federal government that slaughtered the denizens of a church in Waco, shot a mother holding her baby, and legalized the ceaseless slaughter of the unborn has "been established by G-d."  Yeah right::)

toowm

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on August 16, 2007, 01:37 PM NHFT
Quote from: Romans 16:1–71Everyone must submit himself to the governing authorities, for there is no authority except that which God has established. The authorities that exist have been established by God. 2Consequently, he who rebels against the authority is rebelling against what God has instituted, and those who do so will bring judgment on themselves. 3For rulers hold no terror for those who do right, but for those who do wrong. Do you want to be free from fear of the one in authority? Then do what is right and he will commend you. 4For he is God's servant to do you good. But if you do wrong, be afraid, for he does not bear the sword for nothing. He is God's servant, an agent of wrath to bring punishment on the wrongdoer. 5Therefore, it is necessary to submit to the authorities, not only because of possible punishment but also because of conscience. 6This is also why you pay taxes, for the authorities are God's servants, who give their full time to governing. 7Give everyone what you owe him: If you owe taxes, pay taxes; if revenue, then revenue; if respect, then respect; if honor, then honor.
http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig8/baldwin1.html
QuoteThe problem in America today is that we have allowed our political leaders to violate their oaths of office and to ignore, and blatantly disobey, the "supreme Law of the Land," the U.S. Constitution. Therefore, if we truly believe Romans Chapter 13, we will insist and demand that our civil magistrates submit to the U.S. Constitution.

Now, how many of us Christians are going to truly obey Romans Chapter 13?

Romak

Ok so explain a few things to me. According to Mr Jones they are going to use our military to kill us and or force us into prison camps. I personally know tons of military personal that I shoot with quite often. Not one of them would follow these orders. So what are they going to do when they create the next terror attack and try to implement this? If this is really going to happen, who are they going to use to enforce martial law? What could they possibly gain by creating so much havoc? They have too much to lose by doing this. If someone in here can tell me what they have to gain maybe some of what he says would make more sense. The only possible explanation is if they do in fact want a North American Union and want to destroy our economy and make the value of our dollar vanish. Then they will have an excuse to implement the Amero(think thats what its called). But putting millions of Americans into camps and killing millions of us and destroying our families will not give them more power. They wouldn't be able to handle this much turmoil. Not to mention they would lose everything they have been trying to ascertain. Their kingdom would come tumbling down when they realize just how many Americans have guns and know how to use them. What do you think people have been doing since 94 when they passed the AWB? Stockpiling ammo, weapons, food, and water is what most people I know have been doing. The clergy quelling dissent may have worked in Katrina but it wont work in the majority of the country.

Raineyrocks

Quote from: Romak on August 17, 2007, 09:02 AM NHFT
Ok so explain a few things to me. According to Mr Jones they are going to use our military to kill us and or force us into prison camps. I personally know tons of military personal that I shoot with quite often. Not one of them would follow these orders. So what are they going to do when they create the next terror attack and try to implement this? If this is really going to happen, who are they going to use to enforce martial law? What could they possibly gain by creating so much havoc? They have too much to lose by doing this. If someone in here can tell me what they have to gain maybe some of what he says would make more sense. The only possible explanation is if they do in fact want a North American Union and want to destroy our economy and make the value of our dollar vanish. Then they will have an excuse to implement the Amero(think thats what its called). But putting millions of Americans into camps and killing millions of us and destroying our families will not give them more power. They wouldn't be able to handle this much turmoil. Not to mention they would lose everything they have been trying to ascertain. Their kingdom would come tumbling down when they realize just how many Americans have guns and know how to use them. What do you think people have been doing since 94 when they passed the AWB? Stockpiling ammo, weapons, food, and water is what most people I know have been doing. The clergy quelling dissent may have worked in Katrina but it wont work in the majority of the country.

I don't have an answer for all of your good questions but look at what the police are starting to do to citizens.  I'm not sure what their gain would be by doing all of this except for control and pure evilness.  Look how quickly citizens were disarmed in New Orleans during Katrina so maybe a lot of people would get scared and hand over the guns they've been collecting.  I hope it doesn't work like it did during Katrina but who would've imagined that it would've worked so well there?
Here's a link for a manual of how to run the concentration camps :http://www.army.mil/usapa/epubs/pdf/r210_35.pdf#search=%22Army%20Document%3A%20Civilian%20Labor%20Prison%20Camps%22

I mean why was this even written?  It seems to me there has to be a reason, why do these camps exist? http://www.apfn.org/apfn/camps.htm


Raineyrocks

Quote from: RattyDog on August 17, 2007, 09:24 AM NHFT
Oh god. I've got to say, guys, I'm pretty scared.  In fact, I'm scared shitless.

I'm so shocked....but then I'm not....that they would be training clergy like this. I mean, both pastors and gov't law men have been turning their backs on their people and duties for a long time now...but wow. This just seems so....telling. So ominous...ugh. Is this going to happen? This martial law scenario?

I'm starting to tick off, in my head, the little steps they've taken to ensure a swift and easy job of it...it seems closer now.

I am too RattyDog! :(  Who knows if it's going to happen, I hope not.    I often argue with myself about what's best, pretending everything is fine and not reading/listening to this bad stuff or knowing and trying to be as prepared as I can be?  I have little/big kids and grandsons and I get scared for them the most.  If nothing happens great but try to calm down, your no good to yourself if you let this drive you nuts and try to make some kind of plan for yourself.  I've studied Nazi Germany for along time and I'd rather not be loaded onto a train and taken to a camp not knowing what awaits honestly I'd rather put up some kind of a fight and go down that way.  That's just the way I see it if it happens but remember also how freaked a lot of people got over Y2K and for what? :)

dalebert

Quote from: Romak on August 17, 2007, 09:02 AM NHFT
Ok so explain a few things to me.

It's about creating and maintaining a level of fear to instill in us a desire for more government and to give up more of our freedoms. I don't think it would be an all-encompassing act across the country, at least not at first. It would start with localized acts during a crisis, perhaps even an artificially constructed or even just a real but massively exaggerated crisis. They would experiment with martial law in those cases and get people used to the idea and convince people that it's necessary for our survival. Events like that would sway many of the sheeple into voting away yet more of their rights and giving support for more war against the "bad guys".

I've said this before and I'll say it again. This doesn't take a conspiracy. Politicians and the mindless drones that follow them want this on some level. Many of them are already convinced that war is the answer and would just love an excuse to sell that to the people who believe otherwise. The war mongers have been trying to bang it into our heads how much we need this war on terror and how it is justified. The longer we go without real terror, the more foolish they seem. They would love an opportunity to say "I told ya so!"

Romak

Granted there will be a good % of police and military who would just follow orders. But do you guys remember that survey they gave to marines back in 2000 I believe where they asked if they would confiscate and fire upon law abiding americans if guns were banned and more than 90% told them to sit and spin. They were just testing the water to get a response, they know they would need foreign troops to implement such a ban. Thats why our military is so spread out around the world. Police Id say maybe a quarter would go for it, they dont get paid nearly enough to worry about losing their salary. Nice thing about the police is they have access to some pretty cool stuff thanks to Homeland Security grants, etc. I have four cousins who are cops here in NH and they would simply go to the station grab some items and us them against the gun confiscators. Abu graib is a decent example but Americans could care less about a bunch of potential terrorists being mistreated. In terms of New Orleans hate to say it but most Americans saw a bunch of black people being shover into the Superdome with reports of rape, etc. White America didnt care about New Orleans. If that happened in Salt Lake City I dont think you would've seen the same police state tactics.

Ogre

QuoteWhat could they possibly gain by creating so much havoc? They have too much to lose by doing this. If someone in here can tell me what they have to gain maybe some of what he says would make more sense. The only possible explanation is if they do in fact want a North American Union and want to destroy our economy and make the value of our dollar vanish. Then they will have an excuse to implement the Amero(think thats what its called). But putting millions of Americans into camps and killing millions of us and destroying our families will not give them more power. They wouldn't be able to handle this much turmoil. Not to mention they would lose everything they have been trying to ascertain. Their kingdom would come tumbling down when they realize just how many Americans have guns and know how to use them.

It's called groupthink.  When you speak of "they" being government, you have to realize they honestly don't see the outcome you do.  They honestly believe that the vast majority of enforcement agents WILL obey them.  They honestly believe (and probably rightly so) that there will be very few who will actually take up arms against them.  Just as the military may not want to fire on citizens, how many citizens do you think want to shoot at the local sheriff and national guardsmen?

They believe that they will obtain power by taking things from people -- like freedom.  They believe there won't BE turmoil, and if there is, that they will handle it.  The seriously do not believe that there is ANY chance that their kingdom will come tumbling down -- none at all.  They realize (again, perhaps correctly) that if they were to suddenly declare martial law throughout the country that very few would actually actively oppose them.  And they are willing to deal with that small minority.

Yeah, it is scary.  No, it's not based on reason.  But what in government today is?

Romak

Do any of you guys own guns or belong to a gun club? Or better yet do any of you have a group of fellows that you've known for a long time who you know you can trust and rely on for anything? Do any of you know people who have been preparing for this very thing for a long time now? How many people in your neighborhood are actually ready to defend this country from all enemies? National guard, police, military, UN personal, grandmother, grandfather, mother, father, means nothing to us if they are here to confiscate our only means to defense and march us all into a camp. I don't know of one guy in our group who wouldn't fire on his own brother to protect that right. Hell Id be more inclined to fire on my own brother to protect that right as opposed to a stranger, my brother should've know better, you cant blame a stranger as easily for his/her stupidity. If that day ever came I think all of you will be surprised to find out just how many people here in NH are ready for such a scenario. Heck Id even go so far as to say some of them may just welcome it. Or one could say Alex Jones is full of himself like to hear himself talk and all of this is hogwash. Guess we'll all know the answer by next fall. If the elections are allowed to take place things should get very interesting, anyone notice how Ron Paul is quietly gaining some serious momentum.