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Question to Audio and video recording by Police on stops

Started by java, September 15, 2007, 10:31 AM NHFT

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java

Hi, First post here after joining the other day.  Pretty cool.  Now, if I can only jot down the proc-411 number.

do I read RSA 570-a:2 correctly that police when on traffic stops need to inform you that they are using audio recordings with the video?  Does anything trump this?

  (j) A uniformed law enforcement officer to make an audio recording in conjunction with a video recording of a routine stop performed in the ordinary course of patrol duties on any way as defined by RSA 259:125, provided that the officer shall first give notification of such recording to the party to the communication.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/LVIII/570-A/570-A-2.htm




d_goddard

You're correct. The power is completely asymmetrical. LEOs can INFORM (not ask) citizens that they are being audio recorded. Citizens have to ASK if the LEO will let them be audio recorded.

If this seems to you to be unfair, unjust, and likely to foster corruption, you're not alone.
We will be able to address this in the 2008 legislative session.
When the time comes, I hope I can count on you, and HUNDREDS of others, to call their Reps and show up in person in the State House to demand a regress of this grievance.

KBCraig

Quote from: d_goddard on September 15, 2007, 07:51 PM NHFT
You're correct. The power is completely asymmetrical. LEOs can INFORM (not ask) citizens that they are being audio recorded. Citizens have to ASK if the LEO will let them be audio recorded.

Not according to the law. My analysis is here:
http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=10666.msg184002#msg184002

I do not know how NH courts have ruled on this, but the law plainly says that audio recording is legal if all parties are notified that it is taking place.

The interesting part of the law is that LEOs must inform to stay legal. Wonder how often that happens? Certainly didn't happen in the videos we've seen of the interactions between Bruce McKay and Liko Kenney.

d_goddard

Quote from: KBCraig on September 16, 2007, 01:00 AM NHFT
The interesting part of the law is that LEOs must inform to stay legal.
Your emphasis is on the wrong word.
LEOs must inform
Citizens must ask

KBCraig

Quote from: d_goddard on September 16, 2007, 07:53 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on September 16, 2007, 01:00 AM NHFT
The interesting part of the law is that LEOs must inform to stay legal.
Your emphasis is on the wrong word.
LEOs must inform
Citizens must ask

Again, the law says nothing about asking. It says that it's illegal to intercept an "oral communication". It defines "oral communication" in such a way that if they know they're being recorded, it doesn't apply.

Citizens need only inform.

d_goddard

Quote from: KBCraig on September 16, 2007, 09:32 AM NHFT
Citizens need only inform.
Make sure that isn't misconstrued as legal advice, 'cause at least one NH Deputy Attorney General doesn't agree with you.

NH is a "2-party intercept" state -- both parties must agree to the audio recording.
The police have a special exception in the RSA... same place that also exempts school bug operators from getting childrens' permission to audio record them (as of last year)