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Author Topic: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation  (Read 2999 times)

J’raxis 270145

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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #15 on: September 20, 2007, 10:24 PM NHFT »

I have considered it. However, tuition costs in SNHU per year are [hold your seat] ten times what I pay in Israel, and would swallow up my entire family's savings in one year exactly. So it's a job I'm after.

Yup.  That's because universities in Israel are very heavily tax-subsidized versus universities (even public universities) in the US.

In the U.S., we heavily subsidize education too, but in the form of student loans. All that money being thrown at students in order to attend college distorts the market and drives costs up.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #16 on: September 20, 2007, 10:27 PM NHFT »

I have considered it. However, tuition costs in SNHU per year are [hold your seat] ten times what I pay in Israel, and would swallow up my entire family's savings in one year exactly. So it's a job I'm after.

Holy Shit!! And I suppose you can't work to pay your own tuition.... if you can't work.....hummm

I think Student Visas have some regulations on that. Either way, I can't imagine studying AND earning $20,000 year for the tuition AND living expenses.

Yeah, legally at least, you can’t come here on a student visa and work, outside of specific programs for students such as “work study” programs.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #17 on: September 21, 2007, 02:05 AM NHFT »

I have considered it. However, tuition costs in SNHU per year are [hold your seat] ten times what I pay in Israel, and would swallow up my entire family's savings in one year exactly. So it's a job I'm after.

Yup.  That's because universities in Israel are very heavily tax-subsidized versus universities (even public universities) in the US.

In the U.S., we heavily subsidize education too, but in the form of student loans. All that money being thrown at students in order to attend college distorts the market and drives costs up.

Yup, I agree.  But the subsidization (including Stafford loans and stuff) is much higher in places like Israel.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #18 on: September 21, 2007, 02:58 AM NHFT »

In the U.S., we heavily subsidize education too, but in the form of student loans. All that money being thrown at students in order to attend college distorts the market and drives costs up.

Exactly. While MicrBalrog definitely knows the Israeli situation better than I do, I have to say he's underestimating the effect of tax money on U.S. tuition rates.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #19 on: September 21, 2007, 03:23 AM NHFT »

Heh, isn't it odd that the Israeli form of subsidy makes the billed cost of tuition plummet, while the American form of subsidy makes the billed cost of tuition skyrocket?

I'd like to think that once the government steps back from higher education, the cost will plummet.  But really, when you look back on the history of the world, only the rich received higher education.  Higher education seems more necessary now than in the past, though.  My presumption has always been that companies will step up and pay the tuition for students in exchange for a contract stipulating that the student will work with the company for X years or be compelled to pay the company the full cost of the education.  My guess is that it will be a very strong pull, and cost-effective for companies to do it.  It'll be a big draw for recruiting young talent.  It already works wonders for the military -- I nearly joined the military because it was offering to pay for college, and a handful of my friends ended up joining for that reason.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #20 on: September 21, 2007, 04:21 PM NHFT »

Heh, isn't it odd that the Israeli form of subsidy makes the billed cost of tuition plummet, while the American form of subsidy makes the billed cost of tuition skyrocket?

I'd like to think that once the government steps back from higher education, the cost will plummet.  But really, when you look back on the history of the world, only the rich received higher education.  Higher education seems more necessary now than in the past, though.  My presumption has always been that companies will step up and pay the tuition for students in exchange for a contract stipulating that the student will work with the company for X years or be compelled to pay the company the full cost of the education.  My guess is that it will be a very strong pull, and cost-effective for companies to do it.  It'll be a big draw for recruiting young talent.  It already works wonders for the military -- I nearly joined the military because it was offering to pay for college, and a handful of my friends ended up joining for that reason.

I agree the high tuition is a product of inflation, tons of government loans floating around, and increased demand due to poor education at the grades 6-12 level. It seems like a college degree today is like a high school diploma 30 years ago.



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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #21 on: September 21, 2007, 06:12 PM NHFT »

I can attest that todays degree sometimes does not hold up to 4 years of sleeping thru highschool and, almost, aceing the test for a GED, 40 years ago.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2007, 08:22 AM NHFT »


In the U.S., we heavily subsidize education too, but in the form of student loans. All that money being thrown at students in order to attend college distorts the market and drives costs up.

Israel owns the universities and charges the students about $2,500 per year while the actual costs per student are around $10,000-$15,000.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2007, 11:07 AM NHFT »

   Try some tech companies like SCI SAMINA which is in Hungary and other places outside the cont us, or NEA Inc.  Fill out a resumae and see what you can get.  Some of the bigger companies are looking for translators on a temp basis, try a few temp businesses to get yout feet wet.
   That's all I can advise.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2007, 11:51 AM NHFT »


In the U.S., we heavily subsidize education too, but in the form of student loans. All that money being thrown at students in order to attend college distorts the market and drives costs up.

Israel owns the universities and charges the students about $2,500 per year while the actual costs per student are around $10,000-$15,000.

Ah. That’s the equivalent of our state universities (e.g., University of Massachusetts) in the U.S.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #25 on: September 24, 2007, 10:00 AM NHFT »

Heh, isn't it odd that the Israeli form of subsidy makes the billed cost of tuition plummet, while the American form of subsidy makes the billed cost of tuition skyrocket?

I think it’s because whereas ours is partial, theirs sounds like a complete subsidy. In the U.S., some people get their education subsidized, and some don’t, so you have market distortion; those not subsidized get to make up the difference. Over there the government just covers it all; there is no market on which the universities can try to make a profit.
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #26 on: October 19, 2007, 12:38 AM NHFT »

I know I am not being very helpful, but keep trying. 
You may consider applying online directly at various usa companies.  Make it clear that you are serious about immigrating here, and prove that by offering yourself at a low wage for about a year, more or less.  That may lead to direct business sponsorship that can help you come here.  If it is in the manchester area, it is easier to find rental rooms, that are cheaper than regular rentals.  That of course is to help you keep your expenses down. 
Good luck, and I hope to meet you some day. :)
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #27 on: November 11, 2007, 12:04 PM NHFT »

MicroBalRog,

The company I work for is a regional leader in tech support for a 3-D CAD software called Solidworks.  Also, we support "Rapid Prototyping Machines" which basically print your 3D part out of plastic, so you can hold it in your hands in hours.  Very cool futuristic stuff, but accessible, affordable technology. 

Our website is www.capinc.com.  Look under the "About Us" link, and then "Careers".  We've just hired a few folks, but it doesn't hurt to apply for the job you think is a best fit for you, or even to ask for what's still open.

It's a small company, and my boss is a Free Stater, I am, the Rapid Prototyping tech is a Free Stater (who got his job through this sort of connection), and two of the sales folks are native Ron Paul supporters.  So a lot of freedom folks in one place. 

I can't put in a good work for you, (having never met you or seen you work), but it's a fun place to work, and I would recommend applying. 

Shuvom
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Re: A High-Pitched Cry of Desperation
« Reply #28 on: November 11, 2007, 01:02 PM NHFT »

...and I have experience as working as a translator and a writer.

... if I get a job as a translator, writer, editor


Rosetta Stone Associates is a big translating firm, including in tech materials. They are in Nashua, New-Hampshire. They are presently advertizing for clients in trade magazines, but don't know if they need translators. It'd be worth contacting them.

http://www.mv.com/biz/rosetta/

brief review of the company: http://goliath.ecnext.com/coms2/product-compint-0000693483-page.html
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