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Protesters Flooding IRS with Bogus Tax Returns

Started by Kat Kanning, January 10, 2005, 06:23 PM NHFT

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Kat Kanning

I saw this one the FSP forum.  Maybe we should help stop this.

There is a terrible campaign under way by the name of "Drown the IRS 2005." It is organized on the web by an angry group of over-taxed, bitter libertarians. We must do everything we can to stop them. They are planning to send millions of bogus 1040 tax returns to the IRS next tax year. They are going to use freely-available W2 templates, social security numbers (SSNs), and employer identification numbers (EINs). They hope to swamp the IRS with their own paperwork.

http://www.freeerisa.com (free EIN finder)
http://www.glr.com/ssnpub.html (public SSNs)
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&q=W-2+Wage+and+Tax+Statement (blank W2 forms)
http://www.state.ky.us/agencies/finance/depts/ss/fw2_01.pdf (sample W2 form)

This is a danger to our huge-government, socialist way of life. These dangerous freedom-lovers must be stopped. Life without a massive, all-powerful Federal Government is unthinkable. Please forward this warning to as many friends as possible. We must get the word out to as many people as possible in order to stop them.

The most disturbing part of this campaign is that it's advocates have seized the moral high ground. They argue that they are following a creative, nonviolent, Gandhian form of civil disobedience, while the IRS pursues its agenda with jack-booted violence, brutality, property seizures, imprisonment, and other form of physical terror. This point is one that we must work to obscure.

Here is a sample of their individualist propaganda. Decide for yourself how threatening it is to our system of punitive taxation and income redistribution: "Government is a system of institutionalized theft. All people can be divided into two groups. (A) the builders, the innovators, the creators, the entrepreneurs. They bring dynamic change and wealth to our economy. Their reward is oppressive taxation. These are the net tax-payers. (B) the socialist destroyers, bureaucrats and their constituency, the complainers, the lazy and unmotivated They suffocate the real economy with taxes and regulation. They are the parasites. These are the net tax-beneficiaries. When the parasites out-number the self-sufficient achievers, the democratic system self-destructs like in most Latin American countries. The answer is to start ignoring government."

Lloyd Danforth


Kat Kanning


JonM

What's the current penalty for filing a false tax return?

Kat Kanning

There's a penalty for lying on your own tax return.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: katdillon on January 10, 2005, 06:39 PM NHFT
You don't think these people will do it?


I meant: Yah, sure, we should do something to stop it.

Russell Kanning

I like the idea, maybe I will have to make more useful links or come up with lists of government EINs and gov employee SSNs. :)

Dave Ridley

If someone were to make this simpler to do and post clear one-page instructions, more people would probably do it.  As it stands...it looks almost as difficult as filling out a real return LOL.

Russell Kanning


Michael Fisher

Quote from: katdillon on January 10, 2005, 06:23 PM NHFT
I saw this one the FSP forum.? Maybe we should help stop this.

Hopefully these libertarians are aware of the proven 20-year conspiracy between the US government and private industry to track Americans through laser printouts:

http://www.pcworld.com/news/article/0,aid,118664,00.asp

Anyone printing out an IRS form and filing it fraudulently will be caught in a matter of days.

Kat Kanning

Only if you've registered your printer, no?  Otherwise they have no way of knowing who bought what printer.

rothamerica

By having all of these "bogus" returns sent into the IRS, it will cause them to have to go to Congress to ask for more unconstitutional funding to deal with these problem people, amking them even more powerful than they are now.  I just tell people to "drop out" from their radar and don't file at all.

Russell Kanning

The Bush admin. has not been giving the IRS any additional funding, which caused one director to quit. :)

Michael Fisher

Quote from: katdillon on January 11, 2005, 03:56 PM NHFT
Only if you've registered your printer, no?? Otherwise they have no way of knowing who bought what printer.

Nope.  They're the government.  Never underestimate them.

Lloyd Danforth

Quote from: LeRuineur6 on January 12, 2005, 03:30 PM NHFT
Quote from: katdillon on January 11, 2005, 03:56 PM NHFT
Only if you've registered your printer, no?? Otherwise they have no way of knowing who bought what printer.

Nope.? They're the government.? Never underestimate them.

I think they can trace the printer back to where it was bought and then it is just whether or not you used a credit card or, otherwise, left your name.