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Private Sale guns vs. store bought

Started by Riddler, October 23, 2007, 03:45 PM NHFT

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Riddler

Over the last decade+, I've taken to perusing a craiglist-type weekly magazine called 'the want advertiser'. You can find just about anything there, including private sale firearms. Several listings each week are out-of-state (Mass, mostly),requiring a fed. lic., but plenty of in-state, without such encumberances.
I bought a Sig Sauer P229 9 mm, and an American Derringer .357 mag/.38 spec for short $ and NO paperwork. Both in excell. cond. Usually some cat is trying to generate quick cash in these deals, so are anxious to deal. Just a thought, in these (soon-to-be) perilous times, esp. if hillary/schumer/feinstein/soros get their way & confiscation becomes a reality. Don't be caught short.

error


Romak

Ive seen Uncle something or other that has a bunch of guns for private sale. Most of them are hunting rifles however. In terms of confiscation I wouldn't worry about it, they already know who the majority of gun owners are. Most people I know have bought and traded so many times the majority of guns they bought in the past aren't even in their possession anymore anyway so the de-facto registration that is the Brady Bill wouldn't be much use to whomever is doing the confiscating. Its only use would be who bought guns at some point. Besides if we ever get to that point none of that would matter anyway, thats the last thing the anti gunners want. They want to slowly bleed gun owners to death so we are about as important as smokers in terms of %. The problem they have is gun owners as a whole are growing substantially, and every national disaster shows Americans that the Govt is unable to protect them and more gun owners are born. Besides Bablugatz the private sale you made for those 3 weapons is now public, so that kind of defeated the purpose didn't it ?

Riddler

Quote from: Romak on October 23, 2007, 04:42 PM NHFT
Ive seen Uncle something or other that has a bunch of guns for private sale. Most of them are hunting rifles however. In terms of confiscation I wouldn't worry about it, they already know who the majority of gun owners are. Most people I know have bought and traded so many times the majority of guns they bought in the past aren't even in their possession anymore anyway so the de-facto registration that is the Brady Bill wouldn't be much use to whomever is doing the confiscating. Its only use would be who bought guns at some point. Besides if we ever get to that point none of that would matter anyway, thats the last thing the anti gunners want. They want to slowly bleed gun owners to death so we are about as important as smokers in terms of %. The problem they have is gun owners as a whole are growing substantially, and every national disaster shows Americans that the Govt is unable to protect them and more gun owners are born. Besides Bablugatz the private sale you made for those 3 weapons is now public, so that kind of defeated the purpose didn't it ?

it's not in some database tho....besides, look up babalugatz in the phone book...it is simply heresay.... also, it doesn't matter if they know who the gun owners are, they only have records for stuff bought above board. at gun shops.

Riddler

Quote from: error on October 23, 2007, 04:24 PM NHFT
I've never heard of this publication.
It is in just about every news stand, convenience store, etc... right near the auto hunter & porn, usually :o
Out every tues. in NH for $2.75....big book; lots of stuff....farming,autos,heavy equip, hobbies,pets,real estate, etc..you name it...no whores, tho

Riddler

Quote from: grasshopper on October 23, 2007, 05:28 PM NHFT
   Follow the law, do not brake it.  If you sell a gun to an asshole, you're responcible. >:(  Man, I'd love to turn in a fellon that bought a gun, personal sale from a law biding citizen.  This means a Fed or one of Bloomburghs boys, trying to buy from anyone in this state without going through an FFL.
   I almost HOPE they try it.  I'll have em behind bars for 10 years.  If the feds throw out the case, it'll enrage the people.
  Keep poking!!!
   (Usually some cat is trying to generate quick cash in these deals)
  Ya, man, like groovy! ;D
I usually don't 'brake' the law.
These are legit sales, by private owners. They aren't selling out of the back of a trunk, fool. They are listed in the largest weekly 'for sale' publication in the state. ease off the meds, dude

grasshopper

   Oh ya, this sight does not condone illegal activities, if you bought those pistols without an instant background check without knowing that person....., you are advertising illegal activities on this privately owned sight.  Do not do that.  We are law biding citizens here.
 If you see a loophole in the law, please cut and past the law and we may discuss it.
  Now, I suggest you try to explain your potential braking of the law and why you just posted it here >:(

kola

babaloo, are you a trolling/fed?

do you have an honest interest in liberty or are you just here to provoke and get personal  info from honest folks?

Kola

Riddler

Quote from: kola on October 23, 2007, 05:46 PM NHFT
babaloo, are you a trolling/fed?

do you have an honest interest in liberty or are you just here to provoke and get personal  info from honest folks?

Kola
easy everybody
Ima PLUMBER. do YOU think its illegal to post a weapon for sale ad in this (the Want Ad, or any other) type publication? Do you also think it's illegal to purchase from one of these people? Maybe most here are new to N.H. , but folks (and 'cats) have been selling weapons in this mag. for prob. 20 years or more. Ease up on the paranoia.

Riddler

Quote from: grasshopper on October 23, 2007, 05:35 PM NHFT
  Oh ya, this sight does not condone illegal activities, if you bought those pistols without an instant background check without knowing that person....., you are advertising illegal activities on this privately owned sight.  Do not do that.  We are law biding citizens here.
 If you see a loophole in the law, please cut and past the law and we may discuss it.
  Now, I suggest you try to explain your potential braking of the law and why you just posted it here >:(

I DO 'brake' for moose (it's an ubiquitous bumper sticker ,you will see, if you haven't already)
I also 'brake' for da poli-man, when he signals..
I don't BREAK the law, however. Not a felon; Not a cop. Also, read my post above, kind (nervous) sir.

Romak

There is nothing illegal about private sales in NH. You are not allowed to knowingly sell to a convicted felon is all. Obviously if conducting a private sale its always best to sell to someone you know or someone who someone you know knows very well to avoid any BS. But there is nothing illegal about private sales between individuals, nor should there be. Im really surprised at you grasshopper, all this man did was mention another venue to buy weapons privately. I do so because you find some pretty good deals from local people who have no clue what their weapons are really worth.

Riddler

Quote from: Romak on October 23, 2007, 08:03 PM NHFT
There is nothing illegal about private sales in NH. You are not allowed to knowingly sell to a convicted felon is all. Obviously if conducting a private sale its always best to sell to someone you know or someone who someone you know knows very well to avoid any BS. But there is nothing illegal about private sales between individuals, nor should there be. Im really surprised at you grasshopper, all this man did was mention another venue to buy weapons privately. I do so because you find some pretty good deals from local people who have no clue what their weapons are really worth.


Alas... a voice of reason.....
All I was tryin' ta do, without being tarred & effing feathered
Thanks

Romak

Quote from: grasshopper on October 23, 2007, 05:35 PM NHFT
  Oh ya, this sight does not condone illegal activities, if you bought those pistols without an instant background check without knowing that person....., you are advertising illegal activities on this privately owned sight.  Do not do that.  We are law biding citizens here.
 If you see a loophole in the law, please cut and past the law and we may discuss it.
  Now, I suggest you try to explain your potential braking of the law and why you just posted it here >:(

Hey grasshopper where in the law does it say you have to know the person you are buying a weapon from. It only says you cant knowingly sell to a convicted felon.

Nat F

Quote from: Romak on October 23, 2007, 08:55 PM NHFT
Hey grasshopper where in the law does it say you have to know the person you are buying a weapon from. It only says you cant knowingly sell to a convicted felon.

Quote from: RSA 159:14
None of the provisions of this chapter shall prohibit an individual not licensed under the provisions thereof who is not engaged in the business of selling pistols or revolvers from selling a pistol or revolver to a person licensed under this chapter or to a person personally known to him.
http://www.gencourt.state.nh.us/rsa/html/XII/159/159-14.htm

That's the law that allows private sale of handguns.  It says the people involved must personally know each other or otherwise be properly licensed.  If you are buying from a dealer it doesn't apply, and if it's a private sale to a dealer or a person licensed to carry it doesn't apply.  It's pretty clear that if those conditions don't apply then the parties involved must know each other personally.  Other RSAs in that chapter outline the licenses available (those being the "License to Carry" (concealed) and "License to Sell" (for business)).

-Nat

OnGard4Liberty

My concern with buying a private gun sans paperwork is that it might be stolen.  If it is, not only do you have to deal with the legal BS, but you also lose whatever you spent on the gun when the gun is taken from you. 

Do you you guys check beforehand or just take it on faith that it's not stolen?