Muslim threat to our way of life

[EJinCT]

The US government has harmed me and mine much more than the boogiemen from the mideast.

+1 Lets keep things in perspective.


How many Americans have died/lost liberties from extremists?

How many Americans have died/lost liberties due to poor policies of state?


Even I can do the math.

[Riddler]

Well, when the radical islamists start blowing up restaurants, theatres & clubs on U.S. soil, remember your post.

What are they waiting for?  Why haven't they started?  There is nothing stopping them.

Huh?.....Huh?

Give it time....like I said, remember your posts here today.
It'll take a little more time for them to gain a foothold here.
I guess 9-11 wasn't enough?

[Riddler]

They won't stop until ALL infidels have been conquered or converted (convert or die)

Sound familiar?  Inquisition anyone?

Oh wait, it wasn't Muslims that committed those atrocities. How about good ol Jim Jones, was he preaching from the Quran? I wonder if Timmy McVeigh's last words were Allah Akbar!

Maybe it's just me, but I have yet to find a religion that has the market cornered when it comes to radical/extremist practices. So until I experience that, I will continue to judge each person by their own merits.

Jim Jones= quack....only harmed those dumb enough to lemming along w/ him
McVeigh? One guy (2 - if you count nichols; AND the govt. made short work out of him, no?) He's actually closer to some of you here. Anti govt.; wasn't out to kill all Americans.
Every religion has a dark history. Inquisition? sure, but that was 500+ years ago. Man still thought drilling holes in people's skulls was hi-tech medicine.
The rest of the world has evolved; Islamists are still in the 1400's

[Riddler]

The US government has harmed me and mine much more than the boogiemen from the mideast.

+1 Lets keep things in perspective.


How many Americans have died/lost liberties from extremists?

How many Americans have died/lost liberties due to poor policies of state?


Even I can do the math.

Does it add up to almost 3000? (9-11) in ONE day?

[error]

And he's bought all the government propaganda about the "terrorists," hook line and sinker, while missing the real threats right here at home.

Our freedom and way of life are indeed under attack, but it's not from "Islamofascists." They just want the U.S. to leave them the hell alone. Our freedom and way of life are under attack from these guys:

[Riddler]

Jesus, both of you are lock-step koolaid drinkers.....
I'm not racist, i'm a realist
'They' don't just want us to leave them alone....have you NOT heard what some if the higher echelon of islamofacism have been saying?? it's public knowledge...
"they are sick & tired of decadent western influences & lifestyles; they are not going to stop until EVERYONE embraces Islam".
(THEIR version, of course)
So, keep it up w/ the clever name-calling & fiddling while Rome burns.
BTW, Just how many of you have been adversely affected by, say, the Patriot Act? Be honest.
Have any of your rights been curtailed? So that it has caused you any real grief in your day to day life? Or that you just don't like the idea of it?

[Lloyd Danforth]

Well, when the radical islamists start blowing up restaurants, theatres & clubs on U.S. soil, remember your post.

What are they waiting for?  Why haven't they started?  There is nothing stopping them.

Huh?.....Huh?

Give it time....like I said, remember your posts here today.
It'll take a little more time for them to gain a foothold here.
I guess 9-11 wasn't enough?

Give it time?  It only takes one guy to do something like steal a gas truck and drive it into some building.

[Riddler]

Well, when the radical islamists start blowing up restaurants, theatres & clubs on U.S. soil, remember your post.

What are they waiting for?  Why haven't they started?  There is nothing stopping them.

Huh?.....Huh?

Give it time....like I said, remember your posts here today.
It'll take a little more time for them to gain a foothold here.
I guess 9-11 wasn't enough?

Give it time?  It only takes one guy to do something like steal a gas truck and drive it into some building.

...or fly a few planes into buildings.....

[Riddler]

..and Lloyd, I honestly DO hope you and some of the others are right, pray Jesus...I just don't think you are, or I wouldn't be wasting my time posting about it...

[error]

BTW, Just how many of you have been adversely affected by, say, the Patriot Act? Be honest.
Have any of your rights been curtailed? So that it has caused you any real grief in your day to day life? Or that you just don't like the idea of it?

Quite a few of us have been personally affected, been harassed by police for no good reason, etc. You think you're immune? Maybe you are, since you're cheering the tyrants on.

[Riddler]

Oh yeah......how bout one guy driving a rental truck full of explosives into the basement of the WTC & touching it off,  in '93?
does THAT count?

[PattyLee loves dogs]

Oh yeah......how bout one guy driving a rental truck full of explosives into the basement of the WTC & touching it off,  in '93?
does THAT count?

Sure, it counts. Who funded the group that sent the truck? According to the official story, the US funded Al-Quaeda in the early days in Afghanistan through the Pakistani ISI... when Osama had lost all his money in the Sudan, he went back to Afghanistan and magically recovered his fortunes through the good offices of the ISI... which gets its money from YOU, the US taxpayer.

So, are you calling the US government a liar, or do you accept that YOU fund most of the world's dictators and terrorist groups  ?

Anyway, the drug war has killed a lot more Americans than terrorists, and it's derived from Baptist funding (JD Rockefeller's foundations pushed us into Prohibition, alcohol and opiate). So if you come out against the  Baptisto-fascists too, then you'd be consistent... and dead, because those guys don't suicide-bomb, they just bomb.

[Riddler]

We've funded & aided plenty of regimes & govts. that later pissed in our faces. The russians & china in ww2 were staunch allies. or so we thought. A scant 4-5 yrs later, we were enemies. Such is mankind. Same w/ afgani in '89

[Riddler]

BTW, Just how many of you have been adversely affected by, say, the Patriot Act? Be honest.
Have any of your rights been curtailed? So that it has caused you any real grief in your day to day life? Or that you just don't like the idea of it?

Quite a few of us have been personally affected, been harassed by police for no good reason, etc. You think you're immune? Maybe you are, since you're cheering the tyrants on.

No, my friend, I certainly am not cheering 'the tyrants' on.
Prioritizing my concerns, is all.

[enloopious]

At first it sounds like a well thought out argument until you realize that its just religious discrimination (my god is better than yours.)

All religions are slavery. Thats what religion does, it enslaves your mind. To say that one is better than others is naive and ignorant and I don't care who you are.

To think that Muslims are all killers just because of their religion is just dumb. Turn off FOX news and do something productive with your time. Did Mohamed Ali kill a bunch of people? No, in fact he protested the war and the draft. You must remember, there are stupid people in EVERY religion. Terrorism is just the last effort when all other methods are gone.

BTW, Both me and my nephew have been adversely affected by the Patriot Act and if it can affect us then it can affect ANYONE, so fuck you for bringing it up.