Muslim threat to our way of life

[Riddler]

This is quite relevant to our freedoms in this country; Read on:

The Danes are wising-up.  They now recognize the pitfalls of aberrant multicultural liberalism and are making a strategic turn to the right to safeguard their culture.  We need to do the same.

  By Susan MacAllen 

In 1978-9 I was living and studying in Denmark.  But in 1978 - even in Copenhagen, one didn't see Muslim immigrants.  The Danish population embraced visitors, celebrated the exotic, went out of its way to protect each of its citizens. it was proud of its new brand of socialist liberalism - one in development since the conservatives had lost power in 1929 - a system where no worker had to struggle to survive, where one ultimately could count upon the state as in, perhaps, no other western nation at the time.

The rest of Europe saw the Scandinavians as free-thinking, progressive and infinitely generous in their welfare policies. Denmark boasted low crime rates, devotion to the environment, a superior educational system and a history of humanitarianism.


Denmark was also most generous in its immigration policies - it offered the best welcome in Europe to the new immigrant: generous welfare payments from first arrival plus additional perks in tansportation, housing and education.  It was determined to set a world example for inclusiveness and multiculturalism.  How could it have predicted that one day in 2005 a series of political cartoons in a newspaper would spark violence that would leave dozens dead in the streets - all because its commitment to multiculturalism would come back to bite it?

  By the 1990's the growing urban Muslim population was obvious - and its unwillingness to integrate into Danish society was also obvious.  Years of immigrants had settled into Muslim-exclusive enclaves.  As the Muslim leadership became more vocal about what they considered the decadence of Denmark's liberal way of life, the Danes - once so welcoming - began to feel slighted.  Many Danes had begun to see Islam as incompatible with their long-standing values: belief in personal liberty and free speech, in equality for women, in tolerance for other ethnic groups, and a deep pride in Danish heritage and history.

  The New York Post in 2002 ran an article by Daniel Pipes and Lars Hedegaard, in which they forecasted accurately that the growing immigrant problem in Denmark would explode.  In the article they reported:

  "Muslim immigrants....constitute 5 percent of the population but consume upwards of 40 percent of the welfare spending."

  "Muslims are only 4 percent of Denmark's 5.4 million people but make up a majority of the country's convicted rapists, an especially combustible issue given that practically all the female victims are non-Muslim.  Similar, if lesser, disproportions are found in other crimes."

  "Over time, as Muslim immigrants increase in numbers, they wish less to mix with the indigenous population.  A recent survey finds that only 5 percent of young Muslim immigrants would readily marry a Dane."

  "Forced marriages promising a newborn daughter in Denmark to a male cousin in the home country, then compelling her to marry him, sometimes on pain of death are one problem.  Muslim leaders openly declare their goal of introducing Islamic law once Denmark's Muslim population grows large enough a not-that-remote prospect.  If present trends persist, one sociologist estimates, every third inhabitant of Denmark in 40 years will be Muslim."

  It is easy to understand why a growing number of Danes would feel that Muslim immigrants show little respect for Danish values and laws.  An example is the phenomenon common to other European countries and the U.S.  Some Muslims in Denmark who opted to leave the Muslim faith have been murdered in the name of Islam, while others hide in fear for their lives.  Jews are also threatened and harassed openly by Muslim leaders in Denmark's country-region, a country where once Christian citizens worked to smuggle out nearly all of their 7,000 Jews by night to Sweden - before the Nazis could invade.  I think of my Danish friend Elsa - who as a teenager had dreaded crossing the street to the bakery every morning under the eyes of occupying Nazi soldiers - and I wonder what she would say today.


In 2001, Denmark elected the most conservative government in some 70 years - one that had some decidedly non-generous ideas about liberal unfettered immigration.  Today Denmark has the strictest immigration policies in Europe.  (Its effort to protect itself has been met with accusations of "racism" by liberal media across Europe - even as other governments struggle to right the social problems wrought by years of too-lax immigration.)  If you wish to become Danish, you must attend three years of language classes.  You must pass a test on Denmark's history, culture, and a Danish language test.  You must live in Denmark for 7 years before applying for citizenship.  You must demonstrate an intent to work, and have a job waiting.  If you wish to bring a spouse into Denmark, you must both be over 24 years of age, and you won't find it so easy anymore to move your friends and family to Denmark with you.  You will not be allowed to build a mosque in Copenhagen.  Although your children have a choice of some 30 Arabic culture and language schools in Denmark, they will be strongly encouraged to assimilate to Danish society in ways that past immigrants weren't.

  In 2006, the Danish minister for employment, Claus Hjort Frederiksen, spoke publicly of the burden of Muslim immigrants on the Danish welfare system, and it was horrifying: the government's welfare committee had calculated that if immigration from Third World countries were blocked, 75 percent of the cuts needed to sustain the huge welfare system in coming decades would be unnecessary.  In other words, the welfare system as it existed was being exploited by immigrants to the point of eventually bankrupting the government.  "We are simply forced to adopt a new policy on immigration.  The calculations of the welfare committee are terrifying and show how unsuccessful the integration of immigrants has been up to now," he said.

  A large thorn in the side of Denmark's Imams is the Minister of Immigration and Integration, Rikke Hvilshoj.  She makes no bones about the new policy toward immigration, "The number of foreigners coming to the country makes a difference," Hvilshoj says, "There is an inverse correlation between how many come here and how well we can receive the foreigners that come."  And on Muslim immigrants needing to demonstrate a willingness to blend in, "In my view, Denmark should be a country with room for different cultures and religions.  Some values, however, are more important than others.  We refuse to question democracy, equal rights, and freedom of speech."

  Hvilshoj has paid a price for her show of backbone.  Perhaps to test her resolve, the leading radical Imam in Denmark, Ahmed Abdel Rahman Abu Laban, demanded that the government pay blood money to the family of a Muslim who was murdered in a suburb of Copenhagen, stating that the family's thirst for revenge could be thwarted for money.  When Hvilshoj dismissed his demand, he argued that in Muslim culture the payment of retribution money was common, to which Hvilshoj replied that what is done in a Muslim country is not necessarily what is done in Denmark.  The Muslim reply came soon after: her house was torched while she, her husband and children slept.  All managed to escape unharmed, but she and her family were moved to a secret location and she and other ministers were assigned bodyguards for the first time - in a country where such murderous violence was once so scarce.

  Her government has slid to the right, and her borders have tightened.  Many believe that what happens in the next decade will determine whether Denmark survives as a bastion of good living, humane thinking and social responsibility, or whether it becomes a nation at civil war with supporters of Sharia law.  And meanwhile, Americans clamor for stricter immigration policies, and demand an end to state welfare programs that allow many immigrants to live on the public dole.  As we in North America look at the enclaves of Muslims amongst us, and see those who enter our shores too easily, dare live on our taxes, yet refuse to embrace our culture, respect our traditions, participate in our legal system, obey our laws, speak our language, appreciate our history . . we would do well to look to Denmark, and say a prayer for her future and for our own.

[Faber]

Judeo-Christians make up 83.76% of the U.S. prison population, yet make up only 76% of the total U.S. population.

Atheists and secularists make up 0.2% of the US prison population, yet make up 14% of the total U.S. population.

Maybe this isn't a Muslim problem, maybe this is a religion problem.

[Riddler]

a useless couple of facts.
I don't care about the prison population.
I care about radical Islamic fundamentalists that have ZERO tolerance for anyone not kow-towing to allah & the koran. = infidel
& w/ them "all infidels must succumb or die"
Those ARE facts we should all care about

[Roycerson]

Won't matter if the maximum role of government is the protection of life, liberty, and property.

[ThePug]

a useless couple of facts.
I don't care about the prison population.
I care about radical Islamic fundamentalists that have ZERO tolerance for anyone not kow-towing to allah & the koran. = infidel
& w/ them "all infidels must succumb or die"
Those ARE facts we should all care about

You mean just like the statists that have ZERO tolerance for anyone not kow-towing to the government.

You know what the difference is? Radical muslims don't control the government.

[les nessman]

    Elected officials have done more damage to our country than the Muslims
could ever hope to achieve.  Wheres the outcry against them?
Instead we have "watch lists", domestic spying, and secret prisons with our
own citizens inside who are denied due process. Guess who I'm most concerned with
regarding a threat to our way of life?

   

[KBCraig]

    Elected officials have done more damage to our country than the Muslims
could ever hope to achieve.  Wheres the outcry against them?
Instead we have "watch lists", domestic spying, and secret prisons with our
own citizens inside who are denied due process. Guess who I'm most concerned with
regarding a threat to our way of life?   

That's brilliant. Forgive me if I adapt it to my letters to the editor.

[Kat Kanning]

I rather liked the letter I got on this subject that'll appear in the November Keene Free Press:

http://www.keenefreepress.com/mambo/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=636&Itemid=46

[Riddler]

    Elected officials have done more damage to our country than the Muslims
could ever hope to achieve.  Wheres the outcry against them?
Instead we have "watch lists", domestic spying, and secret prisons with our
own citizens inside who are denied due process. Guess who I'm most concerned with
regarding a threat to our way of life?

   

Well, when the radical islamists start blowing up restaurants, theatres & clubs on U.S. soil, remember your post. Also , the most imporatant fact to remember is the most chilling (as stated by a top islamic cleric, whose name escapes me...achmed something)..."our young people are as eager to die as your young people are to live...."
What other religion straps bombs to their young children & sends them into a crowd to kill as many as possibloe. & don't be an ass & compare this to our own military.
Everyone keeps screeching on about iraqi civillian deaths (a great number due to sectarian infighting, NOT alliance forces), but even so..you've got a group of soulless madmen that think nothing of using a 4 yr old as a human shield; Also, as in ANY war, how many hundreds of thousands (millions, more likely) of civillians were killed in WWII? It's an ugly reality of war.
Ask Theo Van Gogh about the "thought police" , watch lists the radical islamists employ to keep tabs on the infidel. Due process? For his audacity to portray Islam & its treatment of women in a less than flattering manner, he got due process on a bridge in Amsterdam with bullets, his head nearly sawed off & a threatening note pinned to his chest w/ the same knife.
But you're worried about our govt.
About a year after the Patriot Act was instituted, a poll was conducted. @ 70% said the Pat Act did not affect them in any way; @ 20% said they knew of noone that had been affected. The ACLU had NO complaints re: supposed infringements of rights. My govt. isn't going to kill me because I spout off against a certain religion.

[bill rose]

great propaganda
911truth do you remember who brought down the tower?
question911.com

get ready for ww III

its coming
hitler made his people blame all social probalms on jews
then he talked his people into killing ALL of them
history keeps happening over and over again
are you aware of it or are you controled by it
i will never push the gas chamber button in the name of less welfare
but we would all do the same thing
if anyone broke into our house and tried raping our wife

ignerance is your right
and i will fight for it
we need to let this thread drop
i will not comment any more on this piece
watch this

http://youtube.com/watch?v=pkgGOFXuYPw

they are trying to kill you
wake up

[Lloyd Danforth]

Well, when the radical islamists start blowing up restaurants, theatres & clubs on U.S. soil, remember your post.

What are they waiting for?  Why haven't they started?  There is nothing stopping them.

Huh?.....Huh?

[bill rose]

lloyd i agree with you

high five

[Riddler]

it's not just about welfare, Bill
Radical Islam IS the hitler of the 21st century.
They won't stop until ALL infidels have been conquered or converted (convert or die)
Pretty simple

[EJinCT]

They won't stop until ALL infidels have been conquered or converted (convert or die)

Sound familiar?  Inquisition anyone?

Oh wait, it wasn't Muslims that committed those atrocities. How about good ol Jim Jones, was he preaching from the Quran? I wonder if Timmy McVeigh's last words were Allah Akbar!

Maybe it's just me, but I have yet to find a religion that has the market cornered when it comes to radical/extremist practices. So until I experience that, I will continue to judge each person by their own merits.

[Tom Sawyer]

ISLAMO-FASCISTS ARE CONQUERING THE WORLD!!!  

The US government has harmed me and mine much more than the boogiemen from the mideast. In fact wacking the bee hive in the mideast is the stupidest thing they have done in our history.