Big, bad news! Liberty Dollar offices raided.

[FTL_Ian]

Speculation the mint is gag-ordered.

[coffeeseven]

wow ... just took the stuff eh?

When I heard the took the dies I thought of John DeLorean who had his dies sunk in a Scottish Loch. When they want to destroy you......

There is no doubt in my mind that "they" are trying to get us to shoot so they can bust out their toys that are way better than our toys.

[Dreepa]

Now I really can't wait for Bernard to speak at the Liberty Forum.

I might have to give him 2 sessions.

[Barterer]

Not a hoax, apparently. http://www.ebacherville.com/cgi-bin/uploaded/FINAL-LibertyDollarNotHaus11152007.mp3

Can you mirror that file?  I have an estimated download time of 19 hours. 

I already deleted it. And now it's telling me the same thing.

Snagged and mirrored:
http ://ww [obsolete, removed link]

[Puke]

Liberty Dollars could be worth a lot more as collectors items now.

I guess I'll just have to buy the new $1 coins.
They're gold colored!! What's better than that? Not real gold, that's for sure.
http://www.usmint.gov/mint_programs/$1coin/

[Dreepa]

They have my Ron Paul Coppers... sounds like they had this at the 'right time'... along with all those lovely mailing  address labels.

I wonder if any got in the mail.

[FTL_Ian]

I already deleted it. And now it's telling me the same thing.

Snagged and mirrored:
http://www.libertybrew.com/FINAL-LibertyDollarNotHaus11152007.mp3

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Does he discuss the mint?  I can't listen now.

[Barterer]

Does he discuss the mint?  I can't listen now.

No. He just said they confiscated all the gold, silver, platinum, copper RP dollars, money, computers.  He says sign up to support the class action lawsuit.

[Dreepa]

I'm also in the camp which suspects that there's really a lot less gold than what they claim to have. But I don't see how anyone on the outside can proclaim with any certainty that "Fort Knox is empty" since the whole matter seems to be shrouded in such secrecy. I think Ron Paul once introduced a bill calling for an audit of Fort Knox. Of course it didn't get anywhere.

Don't you guys watch James Bond?
Pussy Galore has the gold.

[Russell Kanning]

Speculation the mint is gag-ordered.

that makes sense ... they caved

[Russell Kanning]

if they won't let you audit the gold at fort knox ... it ain't there

[Russell Kanning]

Does he discuss the mint?  I can't listen now.

No. He just said they confiscated all the gold, silver, platinum, copper RP dollars, money, computers.  He says sign up to support the class action lawsuit.

I stopped reading the LD emails when they started their silly lawsuit stuff. But I do feel sorry for them and all of the people that were stolen from.

[anarchicluv]

Does he discuss the mint?  I can't listen now.

No. He just said they confiscated all the gold, silver, platinum, copper RP dollars, money, computers.  He says sign up to support the class action lawsuit.

I stopped reading the LD emails when they started their silly lawsuit stuff. But I do feel sorry for them and all of the people that were stolen from.

Silly?  Oh yeah, you think it's silly to defend yourself from the state thugs.

[shuvom]

Just got this news-

This is ALL the MORE REASON for liberty lovers to meet at Ron Helwig's house tomorrow (Friday night, 7pm)

This originally was a meeting just of Liberty Dollar Associates, but now its a meeting for any hard money lover to discuss what legal and political steps to take next.  (Had to throw "legal and political" in there because there are undoubtedly trolls reading this forum waiting for us to go violent so they can bash us.  We'll fool them, just like Gandhi did.) 

Directions here:  http://ronhelwig.com/directions

Yours in liberty,
Shuvom

[Puke]

I don't think this has been posted yet.
From an article on the Reason Magazine website. http://reason.com/blog/show/123543.html

UPDATE: Thanks to reasoner Jeff Taylor, I've seen a copy of a Nov. 9 seizure warrant on an Asheville, NC, address, not available online, claiming that Liberty Dollars at that address are forefeitable for being connected with money laundering and mail fraud. I have not read the entire 38 page warrant, nor am I 100 percent certain it is connected with the actions in Evansville today, but given that the Indianapolis FBI referred me to the U.S. Attorney in North Carolina, probably so, and that multiple raids were planned or executed re: the liberty dollar.

The warrant explains that the FBI from Aug 2005 to July 2007 were "conducting undercover operations to determine the legality of the American Liberty Dollar currency." The warrant also notes that von NotHaus sold an undercover agent a Liberty Dollar T-shirt, and that the agent observed von NotHaus driving a 1999 Cadillac Deville. It doesn't take a trained federal agent to connect the dots here, I suppose. In other words: What-th-what-th-What?