Got a spare room to rent out to a prospective immigrant? (1 month or less)

[iWantToLiveFree]

Hi,

I'm a 25 yrs old Frenchman looking for a place to stay at in NH. The purpose being to scout out the area and look for a job there. For more background info, see this post.

I put my resume online and have been contacted by several companies recently but they are all reluctant to conduct phone interviews and would rather I met them in person. Now that's the good news.
The bad news is they usually did not realize I am not legally authorized to work in the US and back out at the last minute when they do. Most do not even contact me in the first place because they remember to screen out prospective immigrants beforehand.

I'm thinking it could be smart to visit NH for say, a month or so, and set up face to face interviews with NH companies. Hopefully one will decide to jump through the sponsorship hoops for me.

I don't know what/when/where yet.. I'm open to suggestions. I am in no rush.
Now if you have just the thing.. or you think this is the dumbest idea ever, I'd like to hear from you 

Thanks

Nicolas

[David]

I think you may be the first person from France (that I know of) that is interested in the fsp.  You may attempt under the table work for a free stater, but the pay will not be very good. 
Good luck, and welcome, from across the big pond.   

[srqrebel]

Looking forward to welcoming you to the Shire!

[iWantToLiveFree]

I think you may be the first person from France (that I know of) that is interested in the fsp.

I think I got at least one.. maybe 2 other Frenchmen to consider the FSP as well (one is a women actually - no she's not in her 20s ). But really, there is an incredibly low interest in the ideas of Freedom and individual rights here in France.. which is the reason I can't stay here any longer in the first place.
So called libertarians over here are not only mind bogglingly few and far in between, but also remain compassionate government people, supporting free health care for the poor, minimum state guaranteed pensions, government managed insurance markets, no gun freedom and some measure of subsidized schooling and curriculum control among other things (such as still heavy, progressive and burdensome taxation schemes). And like I said.. these are fringe people that are despised by 99% of the population. Sorry, I'm jumping ship.

The only thing we have that you don't, is a mostly politically independent central bank which usually doesn't devaluate the currency nearly as fast as yours does. But then again, it's still a fiat based, legal tender, politically corrupted system and I don't expect it to be any better (and certain no more moral) than yours in the long run.
At least they don't raid gold vaults over here though 

Oh and yeah.. since I earn $$$ and spend euros.. the conversion rate is killing me right now.

You may attempt under the table work for a free stater, but the pay will not be very good.

First off, I don't care that much about the pay. Feel free to exploit me all you want. I earn enough money on the side to make it without a job at all.. so even a ill paid one would do as far as I'm concerned. Don't expect me to give you my best or feel like I'm a part of your team though

But the thing is.. getting a black market job kind of defeats the purpose of my getting a job in the first place. Like I said.. I'm not really in this for the money but rather for the VISA (ie. ability to sleep well at night, run my business legally from within NH) and for the experience of directly interacting with Americans (FSP members all the better) on a daily basis.

Thanks for the support. I for one am looking forward to seeing the Shire with my own eyes
If you know of any free stater in need of a skilled web developer or unskilled anything else.. let me know. I'll work for a relatively low pay, no side benefits or anything..

[srqrebel]

Would you consider teaching a freelance class on web development?  I would gladly be your first customer!

Of course, that would be black market... sorry, can't help you with the VISA.  (Although, if you are into civil disobedience, I will be the first to organize a protest when the ICE men arrest kidnap you for being an "illegal alien"!)

[iWantToLiveFree]

Indeed it wouldn't help with the Visa.. but it wouldn't have to be black market necessarily. My having customers in the United States wouldn't qualify me for a visa in any way. In fact, I already have plenty of US customers (about 95% of my customers).. but the INS goons don't give a flip.

Also, I would gladly give a discount to FSP members for anything they would need to purchase from me. As a matter of fact, I'd give a discount to anyone with a proven involvement in any freedom oriented group that I like. That's the beauty of being one's own boss
I routinely give discounts to organizations that I like (and no, I don't care about their 503 status or lack thereof).

I will be the first to organize a protest when the ICE men arrest kidnap you for being an "illegal alien"!

See, that's what I like about the FSP and American Libertarians in general.. they are willing to walk the walk.
Now, the problem with civil disobedience as I see it, is that I'd be thrown in jail much more easily than the average US citizen. Not only that, but I'd be deported and probably lose a lot of money in the process. I'm a peaceful person, and I know there's nothing you and other free staters can do to prevent my arrest kidnapping and subsequent deportation. I don't really want to live in fear so I'd rather do things openly and as legally as necessary to avoid catastrophic events in my life.

[Russell Kanning]

any of us who lack "papers" will be in the exact same position as you ... I have tried to get them to deport me, but they just get angry or look at me funny

How about openly and illegally?

If you want to follow the governments rules, you might as well start standing in lines now and save the interviews until later. Companies will want to see your paperwork before they hire you.

[iWantToLiveFree]

If you want to follow the governments rules, you might as well start standing in lines now and save the interviews until later. Companies will want to see your paperwork before they hire you.

Yeah that's pretty much it. That's funny because some of these positions have gone unfilled for a while now.. and they still won't consider going through the sponsorship process. Of course, I can only blame the bureaucrats for that, but damn that's freaking frustrating.
I also think I scared one of the recruiters talking about the federal behemoth and the statue of liberty (but that was after we had had several positive contacts and I was then promptly turned away upon mentioning my work authorization - or lack thereof - to her).
I refrain from associating with the FSP though as I wouldn't want anybody to think that the FSP will bring them masses of rabid immigrants. So I never mention this as one of my motivations.

any of us who lack "papers" will be in the exact same position as you ... I have tried to get them to deport me, but they just get angry or look at me funny

How about openly and illegally?

I have considered doing that for some time. I mean, it would seem that the US is a much more "undocumented anybody" friendly place than say, fascist France is.
But still, I am not comfortable with the idea that I may get no knock raided in the morning and taken away to some dark room.. then deported.

Is it so unreasonable of me to fear that?

What if I intend to:

• register my business there (because it makes clients more confortable dealing with you - because the payment processors can give you better rates - and because it should make it easier to open a bank account and offer an additional layer of protection against the government)
• buy a house (how do I gain ownership without ID? how will I take out a loan.. even a small one)
• drive a car (I'm sure a few cops won't arrest me for that but most would.. what does it take then to get out of jail? Is there any ID involved in the process at some point?)
• open a bank account (I know it is supposedly possible without a SSN or anything.. but I'm not sure about that - besides, I also know they report bank accounts from EU nationals back to the relevant member state - so I guess it wouldn't be a stretch to have them report my address to the INS since I would no longer live in the EU)

And then again, I hear many stories of deported immigrants, people snitched out by their neighbors or their competitors, and people arrested for not showing ID (that would include Americans) in at least one state.

[Russell Kanning]

If you want to fill out government paperwork, then I guess you better start standing in line now. It will take you a while. In the meantime a million people will leave meheeco and start their new lives in america.

[Russell Kanning]

But still, I am not comfortable with the idea that I may get no knock raided in the morning and taken away to some dark room.. then deported.

Is it so unreasonable of me to fear that?

that can happen in the US at any time .... even if you have paperwork

no

[iWantToLiveFree]

If you want to fill out government paperwork, then I guess you better start standing in line now.

I don't want to fill out gov paperwork.. but I feel like I don't have much of a choice to be honest. However, standing in line is Step 2... getting approved to get into the queue at all is Step 1.. working on it right now, but it's not looking well.

I'm sure many mexicans live in the US illegally no doubt about that. Some get deported, others don't, but I bet most live in fear and don't realize their full potential because it's so much harder to be an illegal. The US gov is criminal enough as it is (with its own citizens as you pointed out), I don't really want to give them another reason to treat me like crap and boot me out (and god knows what else) 10 years later when my whole life is in NH.

that can happen in the US at any time .... even if you have paperwork

I'm sure it can, and does.. but let's face it, the likelihood of it happening and the ensuing consequences are not the same for peace loving US citizens and peace loving illegal immigrants (all other things equal).

[Russell Kanning]

most illegal immigrants just stay here ... they don't have to worry ... that is what fake paperwork is for
I just hate to see someone not be able to live where there want.

btw ... the tags are starting to get really funny on some of these threads

[iWantToLiveFree]

And here's why I won't come in without the fake paperwork 

I just don't have the balls or moral courage to do without that. Sad truth is I feel like I won't feel the government's intrusion in my life nearly as much in socialist France as I would in America as an illegal.

[Russell Kanning]

you do know this is the NH Underground .... we are about doing underground activities ... in NH .... do you need a different forum?

[iWantToLiveFree]

I guess so.. sorry then.

I originally intended to find out how hard it was to live the undocumented life. I did my own research and some people here (including you) have convinced me that is simply isn't worth it. I'd still consider being hired by a free stater for a fake job but that's probably not underground enough.