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Started by reteo, December 13, 2007, 05:15 AM NHFT

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MaineShark

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on January 02, 2008, 08:53 AM NHFTAgain that personal property is a 'social construct'. Early hominids may not have had such a construct... in this case the strong would take what they wished. And the weak would accept that they avoided a beating or even death.
Our society developed the concept (social construct) of personal property and theft.

Take a cannibalistic society for instance. They have no 'social construct' of the right to life.

But my main point was that they did not come about in the 1960s.

What's your point?  The Nazis didn't have a "social construct" of Jews having a right to life.  Didn't mean the Jews didn't have that right.  Just meant the Nazis were violating it.

Joe

John Edward Mercier

Only because the Allies won the war. We provided the 'social construct' (the means to enforce the right).

In the hominid case, theft being wrong becomes a 'social construct' when the group accepts it as such and acts to prevent it.

MaineShark

Quote from: John Edward Mercier on January 02, 2008, 11:54 AM NHFTOnly because the Allies won the war. We provided the 'social construct' (the means to enforce the right).

In the hominid case, theft being wrong becomes a 'social construct' when the group accepts it as such and acts to prevent it.

So your argument is "might makes right"...

Joe

John Edward Mercier

More like 'history is written by the victor'. But largely in a broader term... yes.
Even the use of persuasion is in some sense the attempt to gain 'might'.