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Incandescent Light Bulb Ban

Started by Little Owl, December 19, 2007, 06:40 PM NHFT

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John Edward Mercier

I can't read the small print, but I would bet that it states to save $118 over its lifetime as compared to an incandescent three-way bulb.

RD

Quote from: Bill St. Clair on December 22, 2007, 12:15 PM NHFT
That looks like $118.00! For one bulb. Looks like the same thing for $14.23 (plus shipping) at http://www.1000bulbs.com/3-Way-CFL/

I believe they're $10 at Home Depot.  There are usually instant rebate slips hanging up next to them that you can fill out to drop the price at checkout.

Raineyrocks

Quote from: RangerProbst on December 20, 2007, 05:01 AM NHFT
The other day, I was at an outdoor Christmas festival near my home when two girl scouts offered me some free light bulbs if I "wrote my name and my family member's names" on some roster they had with them. They said that I could even write my kid's names on the roster. Not being one to pass on something free, I looked at it to see if they required any information that they could use to bother me later.

At the very top of the paper it read, "I promise to do everything I can to reduce the harmful effects of global warming." I could not walk away in good conscious if I didn't explain to the girl scouts that global warming is the most successful hoax every created. Their mother didn't react favorably to what I had to say. Ignorance is bliss.



Oh well at least you tried to inform them.  A lot of people are falling for this global warming crap,there even making shirts now supporting it.

JellyFish

I replaced most of my incandescents with CFLs and I love the new bulbs. The lighting is at least as bright and comfy and they use way less power. I don't support mandating the switch but I think it will happen over time anyway as nobody really wants to pay more for the same amount of lighting.

Little Owl

QuoteI don't support mandating the switch but I think it will happen over time anyway as nobody really wants to pay more for the same amount of lighting.

Exactly.  This is what makes the mandate twice as stupid.  It would have happened anyway.

WithoutAPaddle

#35
Some of the screw-in flourescent lights emit light that is at a harmonic interval of some infra-red light used for TV infra-red controls and impedes their operation.  Back in the mid-1990s, either Popular Electronics or Electronics Now had an article on the subject.  I had made some copies of it, but I no longer have them.  In that era, I checked into a Super 8 Motel that used them and they rendered their TV remotes inoperable.  When anyone complained, they just gave them new batteries.

The culprit lights identified were branded L.O.A., which is short for Light of America, but recently, I found that some narrow diameter, 4 foot flourescent ceiling bulbs not branded L.O.A. would cause DISH Network model 2800 receivers to change channels.

RangerProbst

Next they are going to tell us what type of shit-paper we are allowed to wipe our ass with. Unbelievable

kola

Quote from: RangerProbst on December 23, 2007, 11:08 PM NHFT
Next they are going to tell us what type of shit-paper we are allowed to wipe our ass with. Unbelievable

now that was fricken funny.  ;D

Kola

Kat Kanning

Here's the textbook on the subject, should they need some advice on their legislating.  (From Gargantua and Pantangruel)

QuoteChapter 1.XIII.

How Gargantua's wonderful understanding became known to his father
Grangousier, by the invention of a torchecul or wipebreech.

About the end of the fifth year, Grangousier returning from the conquest of
the Canarians, went by the way to see his son Gargantua.  There was he
filled with joy, as such a father might be at the sight of such a child of
his:  and whilst he kissed and embraced him, he asked many childish
questions of him about divers matters, and drank very freely with him and
with his governesses, of whom in great earnest he asked, amongst other
things, whether they had been careful to keep him clean and sweet.  To this
Gargantua answered, that he had taken such a course for that himself, that
in all the country there was not to be found a cleanlier boy than he.  How
is that? said Grangousier.  I have, answered Gargantua, by a long and
curious experience, found out a means to wipe my bum, the most lordly, the
most excellent, and the most convenient that ever was seen.  What is that?
said Grangousier, how is it?  I will tell you by-and-by, said Gargantua.
Once I did wipe me with a gentle-woman's velvet mask, and found it to be
good; for the softness of the silk was very voluptuous and pleasant to my
fundament.  Another time with one of their hoods, and in like manner that
was comfortable.  At another time with a lady's neckerchief, and after that
I wiped me with some ear-pieces of hers made of crimson satin, but there
was such a number of golden spangles in them (turdy round things, a pox
take them) that they fetched away all the skin of my tail with a vengeance.
Now I wish St. Antony's fire burn the bum-gut of the goldsmith that made
them, and of her that wore them!  This hurt I cured by wiping myself with a
page's cap, garnished with a feather after the Switzers' fashion.

Afterwards, in dunging behind a bush, I found a March-cat, and with it I
wiped my breech, but her claws were so sharp that they scratched and
exulcerated all my perinee.  Of this I recovered the next morning
thereafter, by wiping myself with my mother's gloves, of a most excellent
perfume and scent of the Arabian Benin.  After that I wiped me with sage,
with fennel, with anet, with marjoram, with roses, with gourd-leaves, with
beets, with colewort, with leaves of the vine-tree, with mallows,
wool-blade, which is a tail-scarlet, with lettuce, and with spinach leaves.
All this did very great good to my leg.  Then with mercury, with parsley,
with nettles, with comfrey, but that gave me the bloody flux of Lombardy,
which I healed by wiping me with my braguette.  Then I wiped my tail in the
sheets, in the coverlet, in the curtains, with a cushion, with arras
hangings, with a green carpet, with a table-cloth, with a napkin, with a
handkerchief, with a combing-cloth; in all which I found more pleasure than
do the mangy dogs when you rub them.  Yea, but, said Grangousier, which
torchecul did you find to be the best?  I was coming to it, said Gargantua,
and by-and-by shall you hear the tu autem, and know the whole mystery and
knot of the matter.  I wiped myself with hay, with straw, with
thatch-rushes, with flax, with wool, with paper, but,

  Who his foul tail with paper wipes,
  Shall at his ballocks leave some chips.

What, said Grangousier, my little rogue, hast thou been at the pot, that
thou dost rhyme already?  Yes, yes, my lord the king, answered Gargantua, I
can rhyme gallantly, and rhyme till I become hoarse with rheum.  Hark, what
our privy says to the skiters:


Shittard,
Squirtard,
Crackard,
   Turdous,
Thy bung
Hath flung
Some dung
   On us:
Filthard,
Cackard,
Stinkard,
   St. Antony's fire seize on thy toane (bone?),
If thy
Dirty
Dounby
   Thou do not wipe, ere thou be gone.

Will you have any more of it?  Yes, yes, answered Grangousier.  Then, said
Gargantua,

A Roundelay.

In shitting yes'day I did know
The sess I to my arse did owe:
The smell was such came from that slunk,
That I was with it all bestunk:
O had but then some brave Signor
Brought her to me I waited for,
   In shitting!

I would have cleft her watergap,
And join'd it close to my flipflap,
Whilst she had with her fingers guarded
My foul nockandrow, all bemerded
   In shitting.

Now say that I can do nothing!  By the Merdi, they are not of my making,
but I heard them of this good old grandam, that you see here, and ever
since have retained them in the budget of my memory.

Let us return to our purpose, said Grangousier.  What, said Gargantua, to
skite?  No, said Grangousier, but to wipe our tail.  But, said Gargantua,
will not you be content to pay a puncheon of Breton wine, if I do not blank
and gravel you in this matter, and put you to a non-plus?  Yes, truly, said
Grangousier.

There is no need of wiping one's tail, said Gargantua, but when it is foul;
foul it cannot be, unless one have been a-skiting; skite then we must
before we wipe our tails.  O my pretty little waggish boy, said
Grangousier, what an excellent wit thou hast?  I will make thee very
shortly proceed doctor in the jovial quirks of gay learning, and that, by
G--, for thou hast more wit than age.  Now, I prithee, go on in this
torcheculative, or wipe-bummatory discourse, and by my beard I swear, for
one puncheon, thou shalt have threescore pipes, I mean of the good Breton
wine, not that which grows in Britain, but in the good country of Verron.
Afterwards I wiped my bum, said Gargantua, with a kerchief, with a pillow,
with a pantoufle, with a pouch, with a pannier, but that was a wicked and
unpleasant torchecul; then with a hat.  Of hats, note that some are shorn,
and others shaggy, some velveted, others covered with taffeties, and others
with satin.  The best of all these is the shaggy hat, for it makes a very
neat abstersion of the fecal matter.

Afterwards I wiped my tail with a hen, with a cock, with a pullet, with a
calf's skin, with a hare, with a pigeon, with a cormorant, with an
attorney's bag, with a montero, with a coif, with a falconer's lure.  But,
to conclude, I say and maintain, that of all torcheculs, arsewisps,
bumfodders, tail-napkins, bunghole cleansers, and wipe-breeches, there is
none in the world comparable to the neck of a goose, that is well downed,
if you hold her head betwixt your legs.  And believe me therein upon mine
honour, for you will thereby feel in your nockhole a most wonderful
pleasure, both in regard of the softness of the said down and of the
temporate heat of the goose, which is easily communicated to the bum-gut
and the rest of the inwards, in so far as to come even to the regions of
the heart and brains.  And think not that the felicity of the heroes and
demigods in the Elysian fields consisteth either in their asphodel,
ambrosia, or nectar, as our old women here used to say; but in this,
according to my judgment, that they wipe their tails with the neck of a
goose, holding her head betwixt their legs, and such is the opinion of
Master John of Scotland, alias Scotus.

Bill St. Clair

Quote from: RangerProbst on December 23, 2007, 11:08 PM NHFT
Next they are going to tell us what type of shit-paper we are allowed to wipe our ass with. Unbelievable

Shhh... Don't give them any ideas.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: Bill St. Clair on December 24, 2007, 06:16 AM NHFT
Quote from: RangerProbst on December 23, 2007, 11:08 PM NHFT
Next they are going to tell us what type of shit-paper we are allowed to wipe our ass with. Unbelievable

Shhh... Don't give them any ideas.

Haven't they already tried mandating that toilet paper be made from recycled paper? (A lot of toilet paper, paper towels, napkins, &c., already are.)

John Edward Mercier

The paper making industry is highly regulated. But I think to get the softest TP requires virgin fibers.

ReverendRyan

20% post consumer used to be mandatory in all paper products, then they raised the bar to 40%. That's why plain copy paper costs 40 bucks a case now.

enloopious

The local grocery store had 75 watt equivalent CFLs for $1 per 4 pack. I bought 8 boxes which was all they had.

WithoutAPaddle

Quote from: enloopious on December 29, 2007, 03:05 PM NHFT
The local grocery store had 75 watt equivalent CFLs for $1 per 4 pack. I bought 8 boxes which was all they had.

I just started looking into this topic, and see that, at least on eBay, there seems to be a significant difference between prices of comparable wattage bulbs based on expected life of the bulb.  Does anyone know if Consumer Reports or any independent evaluator has checked the accuracy of the manufacturer's claims of expected bulb life?