Police Begin Fingerprinting on Traffic Stops

[Kat Kanning]

Police Begin Fingerprinting on Traffic Stops
http://www.wbay.com/Global/story.asp?s=2776926
Sarah Thomsen
WBAY-TV
Monday, December 24, 2007

If you're ticketed by Green Bay police, you'll get more than a fine. You'll get fingerprinted, too. It's a new way police are cracking down on crime.

If you're caught speeding or playing your music too loud, or other crimes for which you might receive a citation, Green Bay police officers will ask for your drivers license and your finger. You'll be fingerprinted right there on the spot. The fingerprint appears right next to the amount of the fine.

Police say it's meant to protect you -- in case the person they're citing isn't who they claim to be. But not everyone is sold on that explanation.



"What we've seen happen for the last couple of years [is] increasing use of false or fraudulent identification documents," Captain Greg Urban said.

Police say they want to prevent the identity theft problem that Milwaukee has, where 13 percent of all violators give a false name.

But in Green Bay, where police say they only average about five cases in a year, drivers we talked with think the new policy is extreme.

"That's going too far," Ken Scherer from Oconto said. "You look at the ID, that's what they're there for. Either it's you or it's not. I don't think that's a valid excuse."

"I would feel uncomfortable but I would do it," Carol Pilgrim of Green Bay said.

Citizens do have the right to say no. "They could say no and not have to worry about getting arrested," defense attorney Jackson Main said. "On the other hand, I'm like everybody else. When a police officer tells me to do something, I'm going to do it whether I have the right to say no or not."

That's exactly why many drivers are uneasy about the fine print in this fingerprinting policy.

Police stress that the prints are just to make sure you are who you claim to be and do not go into any kind of database; they simply stay on the ticket for future reference if the identity is challenged.

[coffeeseven]

And if you refuse............?

Take away your birthday or WHAT?

[Pat K]

I know what finger to give them. 

[Lloyd Danforth]

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=5513.0

[Pat K]

http://newhampshireunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=5513.0

[kola]

if they refuse this will give the goons another excuse to taser the individuals.

when will people start to revolt?

the police state will continue its abuse .

If I lived in Wisconsin, I'd be packing my bags and getting the flock otta there.

maybe chug over to NH.

Kola

[John Edward Mercier]

I've always wondered why they asked for my name? Or even signature?
My fingerprint is more my identity than either of the others.
We have three other people in the area that I know of that have the same name. I've even been contacted by a surrounding PD when they thought I was one of the others.

[kola]

a drivers license has your photo. and signature. and eye color.. and weight..and birth date.

thats more than enough.

the gooncops have all this stuuf in their computers ven if your vehicle is insured or not, yet they give us the bullcrap that we need to show our papers OR ELSE!!!

when they pull you over and run the tags, all that info comes up. if you are not the owner of the car then you flash your drivers license and let them run that through their Nazi system.

All this bullshit is nothing but lame excuses to control the masses and make us comply to their every demand. It will continue to pile up and they will continue to make us show more and more papers and in the meantime take away more of our freedom and rights.

welcome to the police state, land of the free slaves, home of the brave sheeple


Kola

[Raineyrocks]

a drivers license has your photo. and signature. and eye color.. and weight..and birth date.

thats more than enough.

the gooncops have all this stuuf in their computers ven if your vehicle is insured or not, yet they give us the bullcrap that we need to show our papers OR ELSE!!!

when they pull you over and run the tags, all that info comes up. if you are not the owner of the car then you flash your drivers license and let them run that through their Nazi system.

All this bullshit is nothing but lame excuses to control the masses and make us comply to their every demand. It will continue to pile up and they will continue to make us show more and more papers and in the meantime take away more of our freedom and rights.

welcome to the police state, land of the free slaves, home of the brave sheeple


Kola

Yup!  I couldn't agree more! 

[Russell Kanning]

if they refuse this will give the goons another excuse to taser the individuals.

when will people start to revolt?

Kola

I guess we just have to revolt and see who joins us.

next will be breathalizer ... blood test ... retinal scan ...

[coffeeseven]

if they refuse this will give the goons another excuse to taser the individuals.

when will people start to revolt?

Kola

I guess we just have to revolt and see who joins us.

next will be breathalizer ... blood test ... retinal scan ...

It'll be interesting to see if all of the current driver's license holders take the "Real ID" May 2008.

[yonder]

It'll be interesting to see if all of the current driver's license holders take the "Real ID" May 2008.

My North Carolina license already has the North American Union hologram on it. 

[kola]

does it really?

can you take a pic and post it?

Kola

[John Edward Mercier]

if they refuse this will give the goons another excuse to taser the individuals.

when will people start to revolt?

Kola

I guess we just have to revolt and see who joins us.

next will be breathalizer ... blood test ... retinal scan ...

It'll be interesting to see if all of the current driver's license holders take the "Real ID" May 2008.

Some will, but not all States chose to go that way. Upgrading to FP scanning technology isn't cheap, which is why I think credit card issuers have held off.

[Lloyd Danforth]