Back hand slap from the NRA

[Bald Eagle]

I let my NRA membership (that I signed up for only because the NRA-chartered range was really the only game in town) lapse after 2 years and give them Holy Hell every time they try to contact me for anything.

"You'll get jack shit from me until you start to actually defend our Rights, stop trying to have 20,000 unconstitutional gun laws enforced because NONE of them are "reasonable" restrictions, and stop getting in the way of people trying to work at the State and local levels.

If you think that I'm going to give you money for your glossy fluff magazines, your gun-crap marketing, and more fancy crap and silk suits for Wayne LaPierre, you're out of your mind.  I give all my money to GOA and JPFO instead."

Though GOA isn't very good about keeping their members updated about basic things like their membership status, and Aaron Zelman is kind of a flake...

Secondly, I would worry about the NRA setting up the thin edge of another wedge in the back door, since I could conceivably see them putting forth the "logic" that if the police and ATF had better records on gun owners, then they could track them down more efficiently to "give them their guns back."

The NRA is the largest gun control organization in America - L. Neil Smith

[TackleTheWorld]

My definition of victory is anything that stops or rolls back tyranny, or anything that educates the public about the tyranny inherent in the system, or anything that disrupts the system's ability to engage in tyranny, however small any of these actions may be. This would include legislative victories that repeal particularly unctuous laws or place new limits on them, litigative victories that either place new limits on the government or at the very least grant relief to the people* involved in the litigation who were victimized by the government, and acts of civil disobedience that serve to educate the public or disrupt the system.

Ok, show me what your donations are buying.  Show me a repeal or a lawsuit victory, or an educational breakthrough.

[J’raxis 270145]

My definition of victory is anything that stops or rolls back tyranny, or anything that educates the public about the tyranny inherent in the system, or anything that disrupts the system's ability to engage in tyranny, however small any of these actions may be. This would include legislative victories that repeal particularly unctuous laws or place new limits on them, litigative victories that either place new limits on the government or at the very least grant relief to the people* involved in the litigation who were victimized by the government, and acts of civil disobedience that serve to educate the public or disrupt the system.

Ok, show me what your donations are buying.  Show me a repeal or a lawsuit victory, or an educational breakthrough.

Many things on these lists would qualify as victories to me:—

• NRA: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Rifle_Association#Past_campaigns
• ACLU: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ACLU#Notable_historical_cases

[TackleTheWorld]

Can you be more specific?  Those links go to things that happened before you were born.  You probably don't claim those as victories you have helped win.  Which ones are your victories?

[J’raxis 270145]

I only joined these organizations this year, so I can't point to much yet. But those past victories are what encouraged me to do so.