How many men can the ARMY piss off at once?

[Caleb]

First, Beth, I wasn't responding to you, but to Maineshark who made a personal attack on Kola.

Second, I think you are right: In this girl's case, the boob job was the right decision. It got her out of the military. If I was a young woman stuck in the military, I would get a boob job to get out. Hell, I'm a guy, and if I was in the military, I would even consider a boob job to get out. This girl out to be having a (jello-wrestling) party instead of bemoaning that she isn't in the military anymore.

[srqrebel]

I object to people joining the military. Doesn't mean I plan on going out with a gun to stop them

When people join the military, they (usually) proceed to inflict harm on others against their will.  When a woman gets breast implants, it is a consensual agreement between her and the surgeon -- and nobody else's business.

[Beth221]

agree.  and i thought you were defending kola because of me, a little gal, lol.

so, are you pro-boob? do you like boobs?  nothing like a handful of boob!

i am a boob, lol

i even use my boobs to tell the country to listen to FTL, or to vote RP! 

its an asset, and i love them!

i love having boobs, did i mention that?  I am passionate about boobs! 

[kola]

I will not waste time or energy on "Angry Joe's" comments.

beth quoted" he has a right to his own opinion, just dont cram it down my throat, is all i ask.

i can see why women get them.

or an cosmetic surgery.

kola, what about men getting breast implants?  most of the time that is not really for cosmetic reasons, its to become more woman, for themselves. 

i dont want to see implants banned. 

I wasn't trying to cram anything down your throat, Beth, although my opinions are often quite strong and passionate and they tend to stir discussions.  I too, can see why women get them and it is my opinion it is all for the wrong reasons. (even in masectomy cases there are other and safer options to "fill a bra", if that is their desire.
Whether it be men or women who want fake ta-ta's, I do not think fake breasts "make" a woman. There are too many other qualities that IMO make a woman a woman. Then again I am an old fashioned kinda guy. OTOH I still belive a person can do whatever the hell he or she pleases. Breast implants will never be banned..too much money involved and too many people are in search of happiness by altering their looks instead of seeking it from within. But my issues are once again with "modern medicine". ( same as with the vaccine issue). The public gets shortsighted on the safety information, far too often they put blind faith in the procedures and they put their health at risk just to gain attention and acceptance in modern society.     

Kola

[Kat Kanning]

I like to keep abreast of Beth's opinions 

[kola]

Beth quote:Do you object to dental work, like dental crowns, or implants?  Some people's body get sick form the materal, or metal used, and their body rejects them, but doesnt mean that we should stop using them, right?  Some people get dental work done for cosmetic reasons, because it overall improves their life, by having an attractive smile, they have more confidence.

Like a stripper getting a tit job, and making $2000 a week more, to benefit her bastard children, why take that away?

I am pro boob.  

I have serious issues with root canals, crowns, dental implants and the continual use of mercury in dental work. Dr Hal Huggins DDS was a pioneer for bringing these dangers to the surface. For his work, the AMA and the ADA revoked his license. Full dentures and partial plates made from non-allergenic materials provide nice smiles. There are safer plastic composites that can used for fillings.

I am one of the guys that get turned off my fake boobers but yes you are right, most guys like them and the strippers get more tips. Then again, I am one of those guys (I blame it on genetics) that prefer a girl with smaller boobs. My genetic "likes" are small petite woman with long hair and most often they have small boobs. Shallow maybe, but some things I do not question (ie food tastes, preference for colors, colognes and yeah women too). But in no way is my claim meant to be the "gold standard" for how ALL woman should look.  



Kola                

[kola]

replacement parts- like a hip, or a knee.

what about for breast cancer, if i had to have by boobs chopped iff, i would prolly do implants, to replace what I lost. 

it would be for emotional reasons, so when i put a bra on, i have something to put in the bra.. rather than having nothing there. 

Hip and knee reconstructions have a very good track record with very few problems related to rejection/allergic reactions to foreign substances like titanium plates, screws, other hardware and the adhesive cements and the plastics they use.   

Getting implants after breast cancer (to me) seems ridulous since they are known to cause cancer. There are those "waterboob thingys" women can stuff in a bra and there are lots of other creative ways to fill out the chest. (if thats your choice).

Again, modern medicine has done a great job of desensitizing us. They have convinced most people that putting poison in the blood cures cancer and that bigger boobs are better. Not to mention Viagra use and that having an erection for 2 days is what makes a "man".

Kola   

[Lloyd Danforth]

I'm guessing Kola is a breast enthusiast too

[kola]

It is my opinion that they are not safe to be put in bodies therefore I object to breast implants even when a woman has a masectomy. I would guess 99% of them are for cosmetic reasons.

kola

Seems like objecting to someone else getting breast implants goes outside the realm of just making an observation.

Breast implants may be bad for one's health, but unless someone is trying to implant them into you, it doesn't make sense to object.

I used the term "object" "to express my disapproval. I am unsure of the "actual" Websters defintion.

Kola

[Beth221]

Beth quote:Do you object to dental work, like dental crowns, or implants?  Some people's body get sick form the materal, or metal used, and their body rejects them, but doesnt mean that we should stop using them, right?  Some people get dental work done for cosmetic reasons, because it overall improves their life, by having an attractive smile, they have more confidence.

Like a stripper getting a tit job, and making $2000 a week more, to benefit her bastard children, why take that away?

I am pro boob. 

I have serious issues with root canals, crowns, dental implants and the continual use of mercury in dental work. Dr Hal Huggins DDS was a pioneer for bringing these dangers to the surface. For his work, the AMA and the ADA revoked his license. Full dentures and partial plates made from non-allergenic materials provide nice smiles. There are safer plastic composites that can used for fillings.

I am one of the guys that get turned off my fake boobers but yes you are right, most guys like them and the strippers get more tips. Then again, I am one of those guys (I blame it on genetics) that prefer a girl with smaller boobs. My genetic "likes" are small petite woman with long hair and most often they have small boobs. Shallow maybe, but some things I do not question (ie food tastes, preference for colors, colognes and yeah women too). But in no way is my claim meant to be the "gold standard" for how ALL woman should look. 



Kola                 

problem with dentures, when you hve your teeth removed, the nerves that guide where your jaw bites are removed, because they are located around your teeth, and in your bone.  When you have dentures, or NO teeth, the bone starts to dissolve, because there is no need for an active blood supply to feed teeth that are not there.  As for composite fillings, they are plastic, and very hard to keep an eye on with large multi-surface fillings, bacteria can get in between the material, and the tooth, leading to decay, if you have them replaced on a regular basis, which is about 5 years, loose the interegrity of your tooth because for more retention, and cleaning purposes you loose some of the tooth the the drilling process.  As for mercury in fillings, there is more mercury in a can of tuna, then in a single surface filling, the mercury is only harmful in a liquid state, vapors and such, once the filling hardens, (takes minutes) and once it starts to corrode (everyones metal fillings corrode, which stops that nice sensitive feeling after you get a new one, the corrosion seal the filling) it is not harmful.  I hate composite fillings, i have seen more need for root canal therapy, and apiocetemys (a&r's, going threw the bones to remove the infected root tip, back filling it with a filling material) caused from plastic fillings, which are very new in the industry.  What I suggest, is Ketac Silver, it is a glass ionamer filling with silver filings, silver is a natural antibacterial, it makes a great base for crowns, can be used as a core filling material in root canals, and available with flouride in it, which is a trace mineral, some people lack the mineral, and it can be benifical in small amounts. 

Root canals should be pain free, if they are not, get another doc. 

and some people are allergic to dentures, partial places, or unilateral partials, the best new material, is valplast, its a hypoallergetic materal, new space age.   have seen allergic reactions to the metal, or the acrylic used in them, nasty!

sorry for the misspelled workds and typos, i am ina  mad rush, cold hands, and at work! 

one who loves boobs, Beth

[kola]

I disagree on everything in your last post but I agree with you on the love of boobs.

Kola

[Beth221]

are you in the dental field too??

[MaineShark]

kola seems very fond of telling others what they should do with their own bodies.

Reminds me of certain Presidential candidates...

All he did was say that they are bad for your health. He didn't try to tell anyone they can't have them.

I didn't say that he did.  I said he enjoyed telling others what they should do with their own bodies.

And fyi, he's right. There is a 100% certainty of complications down the road with breast implants.

100%, eh?  I smell BS...

are you in the dental field too??

Of course he's not.  He just likes spouting off on things he knows nothing about.  Probably tries to convince folks with amalgam fillings to have them ground out, thereby exposing themselves to what, 100 times the amount of mercury that they would ever manage to absorb during the life of the filling?  More?

srqrebel has is pegged.  Someone just expressing an opinion doesn't phrase things the way that kola did.  I'm not a fan of cosmetic implants.  Oddly enough, that's exactly how I would phrase that: expressing my disapproval with the result, rather than phrasing it as an objection to the choice being made.

You can tell a lot about what someone actually thinks, rather than just what he claims to think, based upon those little slips of phrase.  He always manages to sound authoritarian (objecting to people's choices).  Might just be because he is one.

Joe

[kola]

are you in the dental field too??

Nope. I am not a dentist. That doesn't mean I am uneducated about the topic nor does it mean I cannot voice an opinion regarding the information I have gathered over the last 30 years. Is ok with you if I have opinions regarding the various forms of healthcare? Is it ok if I have opinions  about breast implants? And is ok to say I wish women would not subject themselves to the procedure? Are you not a 'freestater"? But yet you want me to stay silent? We can disagree on a topic but still be civil, unlike "Angry Joe."

I enjoy reading and hearing everyones opinions and I encourage people to voice them...whether good bad or ugly.

My opinion will not change your opinion about fake knockers. If you want implants, get them. I wish you wouldn't. Thats all. Is that a crime or not acceptable for forum discuusion?

My apologies. 

Kola

[MaineShark]

Nope. I am not a dentist. That doesn't mean I am uneducated about the topic nor does it mean I cannot voice an opinion regarding the information I have gathered over the last 30 years. Is ok with you if I have opinions regarding the various forms of healthcare? Is it ok if I have opinions  about breast implants? And is ok to say I wish women would not subject themselves to the procedure? Are you not a 'freestater"? But yet you want me to stay silent? We can disagree on a topic but still be civil, unlike "Angry Joe."

I disagree with people on plenty of topics, and still remain very civil.  Heck, my brother will probably be voting for Hillary if she is on the ballot in November, and I still manage to be civil towards him, and actually even express affection (he is my brother, after all, despite his many faults).

I have no desire to be civil towards authoritarians who pretend to be liberty-lovers.  Just admit your true nature and feel the cleansing light of honesty wash over you.

Your choice of phrasing on this and many other topics make it abundantly clear that you actually think you have authority to tell others how to live their own lives.

If you could demonstrate any actual knowledge of these subjects, you might at least be authoritative, even if you had no authority.  But as Beth ably demonstrated, you don't know what you're talking about with regards to amalgam fillings, now do you?

Joe