It is all just a big sick fucking joke! - Right?

[John]

This candidate knows how much of a fucking joke this all is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gPcqy0pvdsI&feature=related

[John]

Won't your children and their friends vote for the "funniest" candidate?
Hillary knows how fucking funny WAR is:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L3gQfz8GC0o&feature=related

[firecracker joe]

This election system is a big fucking joke i know alot of pople who voted for RP most have never voted before but are sick of the direction of this coutry by a few in charge punks the school bullies and cheerleaders I hope someone is ashamed of what they have done to our system of right and wrong  not a law.

[ThePug]

To be honest, I think a lot of this had to do with the fact that the official campaign didn't bother to actually do much of anything in New Hampshire with all that money we gave them. The worst part is that the anti-war/indy/paleocon vote went to John McCain- largely because Ron Paul didn't run any ads on issues important to those people- issues which happen to be at the heart of his campaign. There's a reason campaigns spend so much money on advertising- it's how you reach most people. Only about 20% of people get any meaningful amount of political news online. The means that the only way 80% of the public is ever going to hear about Paul is through the media (big help there), debates (a small percentage), and ads. Ron Paul's official campaign did almost nothing to even have a competitive ad presence in NH, much less target ads at what should have been a very receptive audience.

They seem to have corrected that mistake, though, and are doing in Nevada what they should have done in NH- flooding the state with high quality TV and radio ads. Though they still aren't running anti-war, anti-tax ads like they should. It does help that everyone else is focusing on SC, so Ron Paul could get a big upset in Nevada. There's also Super Tuesday, and the fact that him and Romney are going to be the only candidates who aren't broke.

Ignoring the issue of whether or not there actually was any funny business, the simple fact is that obsessing over it is going to do a lot more to turn people away than bring them in. Right or not, you just sound whiny and angry to the outside observer. That doesn't do any good, and it certainly isn't going to actually get the problem solved. A grassroots-funded recount is one thing, but screaming about fraud and how stupid people are is a big turn-off to your average voter. The main issue, as always, is education- getting the message out there.

[firecracker joe]

  its all just a big fucking joke tv ads or not eventually the joke will be on them

[Ron Helwig]

To be honest, I think a lot of this had to do with the fact that the official campaign didn't bother to actually do much of anything in New Hampshire with all that money we gave them.

That's because all that money came in after it was too late to buy ad time here.

[ThePug]

To be honest, I think a lot of this had to do with the fact that the official campaign didn't bother to actually do much of anything in New Hampshire with all that money we gave them.

That's because all that money came in after it was too late to buy ad time here.

Maybe. I didn't mean to indict the campaign so much as I was making the point that there are perfectly reasonable explanations for Paul's less than stellar success in New Hampshire that don't rest on "It was stolen!" or "They're all idiots!"- explanations that don't alienate 95% of the general public.

Even if the Dec. 16th money was too late, though, there was certainly enough money on hand even before then to have done a lot more than they did in NH. I do understand the Nevada strategy, though. There's a lot less competition there.

[Lloyd Danforth]

There is a guy with many years of experience in NH politics who had suggestions and the RP people would not return his emails.

[yonder]

There is a guy with many years of experience in NH politics who had suggestions and the RP people would not return his emails.

I don't know if I should be glad that it's not just me they are ignoring.

[John Edward Mercier]

To be honest, I think a lot of this had to do with the fact that the official campaign didn't bother to actually do much of anything in New Hampshire with all that money we gave them.

That's because all that money came in after it was too late to buy ad time here.

Maybe. I didn't mean to indict the campaign so much as I was making the point that there are perfectly reasonable explanations for Paul's less than stellar success in New Hampshire that don't rest on "It was stolen!" or "They're all idiots!"- explanations that don't alienate 95% of the general public.

Even if the Dec. 16th money was too late, though, there was certainly enough money on hand even before then to have done a lot more than they did in NH. I do understand the Nevada strategy, though. There's a lot less competition there.

NHites respond to personal interactions. Not so much media or signage. McCain and Clinton have been in NH 'campaigning' for many years, so they've met more of the populous.

[watershed]

antiwar rhetoric turned me off from him, we must stay the course (i didn't mean to quote Jr.)
the job must be completed this is the mess of the neo-cons and big oil from the 80's. let them clean it up and actually finish the job. in all reality...the Brits should fix it...it was their lines in the sand which created these f'ed up borders and allowed tyrants to rule. why cant a libertarian candidate talk about cultural independence in the middle east. govmnts want to maintain status quo or walk away neglecting the global situation at hand. Iraq should be politically divided ...kurds-shiites and Sunni's all separate republics with cultural identities rather than a federal patriac who will give  in to political influence and perhaps createmore chaos