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RE-COUNT

Started by jaqeboy, January 12, 2008, 01:34 PM NHFT

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jaqeboy

A Friday email from Chris Gronski:
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2nd Urgent Alert OBSERVERS NEEDED TODAY AND NEXT WEEK

"The British are Coming, the British are Coming!!"

When Paul Revere cried that call to arms that was enough notice our forefathers needed to stand against the encroaching tyranny.

Sometimes events in the preservation of Liberty and Freedom require unscheduled action. If we are blessed with time than we might be able to be more effective.

Well this is one of those times. If you have ever been concerned about the possibility of fraud with voting machines, than this is your opportunity to help and get involved.

Yesterday, I was in Concord at the Archives Building on Fruit Street helping as an observer, recounting the Republican ballots from the recent New Hampshire Primary. It was somewhat overwhelming. We needed at least 20 people to effectively help the recount. We had only about 8. That was only one observer per table as 2 people from the state counting ballots. It was difficult to say the least.

Presidential candidate, Albert Howard, was the one who requested the recount. It's through his committed efforts that we are able to check if the machines in the state are working properly and/or if there's any fraud present. Albert is at this time here in New Hampshire and looking for help from the Patriots New Hampshire is known for.

One way for you to help is to assist Albert in his physical needs. He's not working while he is here; he has need for financial help. If you can ease his burden, Please go to his web site and donate to help his family while he is here. This recount might take more than a week.

So if you can't make it to the Archives Building today or next week PLEASE go to Albert's website and donate as your part of securing Liberty and Freedom. www.alberthoward.org

As for helping with the recount, please e-mail or me about WHEN next week you CAN be in Concord. The Boston Globe reported that 18,000 people voted for Ron Paul in New Hampshire. We're looking for just a very small committed people to show up and "VOTE" for Freedom. If you're not aware of the concern, please do a video search online for the HBO film "Hacking Democracy." After watching that film, you'll know why there's such and urgency and concern about voting machines.

If you can show up for just one morning or afternoon just let me know which day. Show up for a whole day. Just let me know, WHEN. We need 20 people per day to properly handle the load. Just 20 people a day from the 18,000. Please, please contribute your part whatever that may be. I can't tell you how much it will mean to me and to the country for actual outcome of the election in the Fall.

Thank you for your help and support.

Christopher Gronski

NH-WTP State Coordinator
Wolfeboro, New Hampshire
603-569-7862 H
603-866-0074

freedan

Howdy all election Geeks and other interested parties,

I was an observer for the Republican N.H. primary recount the 1st 2 days. I can report on the counting I observed so far. Ron Paul's vote was increased 1 and decreased 1 and Romney's vote was decreased by 53 votes. Paul's increased vote decreased McCain's and his the decrease was given to a write in for Obama because of the lack of the counting machines being unable to see not only the oval being filled in but also the whole of Ron Paul's name being redacted and the oval for the write in position not being filled in but the name being there.

Also one of the deputy's Sec. of State was inconsistent in picking a result on 2 contested  ballots that were the same. The issue was that 2 voters one in Merrimack and one in ward 2 of Nashua decided for some unknown reason to mark the ovals in all but one candidates positions. In the 1st case it was Giuliani's position that was unmarked in that case it was chosen to be an over vote. The 2nd case Romney's oval was unmarked in this instance it was determined to be a Romney vote. I was at the start of the recount, told by the Secretary or one of his deputies that the key issue to picking the result of the hand count was voter intent, by court decision. In the two ballots described above I think the voter intent was indeterminable. I agreed with the 1st result, an over vote. Picking the unmarked position as the voted for candidate is a stretch because if the voter actually cared and was intelligent and mentally well enough to be in the voting booth, it would have been easy enough to do the instructed action to make their vote clear. I think the intent of the voter in both these cases was to confuse or make a joke of the process. Which i think could be a reasonable position to take :).

Sincerely,

Dan Stuart

jaqeboy

So, FreeDan, you've got enough people helping by now, don't you?

freedan

Hi Jaq,

I do not know. I do not think that anyone does! It would be great if those that intend to put in time will report it here or somewhere so we can put in more effort if needed to recruit more. there needs to be at least 8 but 16 is better and more than that would be even better.

I still need a ride up there as soon as possible I live light off the Everet Turnpike (people think it is route 3 but it is not north of exit 7) If anyone is going up from Hudson, Nashua, Milford, Manchester areas or points south and would be willing to assist me with transpo' I would gladly kick in for gas..

Please contact me @ 670-2035 or dancndanny@hotmail.com

Thanks

Dan

Kat Kanning

What possible means can the vote count have when the ballot boxes are broken open during transport and aren't kept locked up?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PKQEQ7qHvgM


QuoteNEW HAMPSHIRE CHAIN OF CUSTODY BREAKDOWN

The "seals" are not seals. The "chain of custody" is not a chain of
custody. Ballots being transported by the "state police" are actually
transported by Butch and Hoppy, who are not employed by the state police.
Butch and Hoppy's real names are not really Butch and Hoppy.

IN NEW HAMPSHIRE, IT'S ALL IN PLAIN SIGHT.

The chain of custody in the New Hampshire recount is using a false
seal, and on at least one night, officials chose to leave the ballots out
of the ballot vault.

We tailed ballot transport guys "Butch" and "Hoppy", captured ballot
footage in the vault, and grilled public officials to get the real
answers, which were sometimes lies and often evasive. More to come, new clips
will be posted on the main page at http://www.blackboxvoting.org

More on the sham labels and leaving ballots out of the vault, click
here: http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/71572.html

Photos of ballot boxes delivered with slits in them, click here:
http://www.bbvforums.org/forums/messages/1954/71456.html

Please feel free to distribute, reprint or excerpt from the information
in the stories linked above, with link to Black Box Voting and the
video link above.

Bev Harris
Black Box Voting

Lloyd Danforth

Rich Angell and I helped with the count today.  If the vote is as important as they seem to think it is, one would think they would take better care of the ballots.

freedan

A very possible outcome of the recount is the appropriate exposure of this corrupt system. The hopeful result is to reduce the dependency of the "governed" on a perpetually corrupt system.

Dan :)

John Edward Mercier

I say the candidates draw lots. Line up back-to-back in the street. Ten paces, turn, and fire.
Last one alive is wins. ;D

freedan

Howdy all,

I and another gentleman will be going tomorrow morning to Concord to be observers at the recount. If you need a ride we may have space for one or 2. From the southern Merrimack valley. Please contact me.

(603) 670-2035

Dan

freedan

recount results that I have so far. From Karen Ladd

An Excel spreadsheet attached:

Lloyd Danforth

I'm sure it is wonderfull, but, I can't seem to find what to open it in

Pat McCotter

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Quote from: Lloyd  Danforth on February 02, 2008, 04:20 PM NHFT
I'm sure it is wonderfull, but, I can't seem to find what to open it in

For those using Windows without MS Office you can use Excel Viewer.

Or you can use OpenOffice Calc.