Early movers expecting a baby soon and need advice please.

[MengerFan]

heres was SSA says:

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10023.html

kola

Our daughter has a bank account, medical insurance, and no SSN.

[Henry]

Thanks everyone for the responses and the research. I'll continue following up on them. If anyone has had a child here I'd really like to get in touch!

Despite the SSA saying it isn't necessary I know of someone close who had a child back in California, who isn't aware of these issues discussed on these forums, and the child was automatically given the number and she was also told that if they didn't give all the vaccines at that time that they would take the baby away from her.

MengerFan, how did you swing the insurance, and is the child still an infant if you don't mind me asking?

[kola]

and...the rest of the story:

http://www.thewomenwarriors.net/phpbb2/viewtopic.php?t=483

see page 11 of this link  http://www.teamlaw.org/Warn1.pdf

[kola]

heres was SSA says:

http://www.ssa.gov/pubs/10023.html

kola

Our daughter has a bank account, medical insurance, and no SSN.

Where was she delivered (home. hospital etc) and who provided the service?
She may not have a ssn but I would bet she is "bonded" at the state and fed level and recorded specifically at The Bureau of Vital Statistics under the Dept of Commerce.

[kola]

Henry, Here is the NH vaccination exception status:
It even states that you do not have to sign the birth certificate but I would bet my buttom dollar you would have quite a battle trying to opt out. It is only mu opinion that every newborn is reported on record whether it gets an ssn or not.....unless you have your baby in complete privacy.


http://www.vaclib.org/exempt/newhampshire.htm

[Henry]

Thanks Kola and everyone. This has been helpful. I now know the law, have the exemption forms, know I need a "birthing plan," and am confident of dodging the number in NH at this time. It's sad that today I think it would be a handicap for the child to not get a birth certificate. Have you ever heard of someone not having even the birth certificate here?

[MengerFan]

She is a year old next week. I don't have any secrets or anything. I just told thee bank and insurance company she has no SSN.

Because of complications during the delivery, she was unfortunately born in a hospital. We were pretty much a nightmare for the hospital employees, though not intentionally. They couldn't understand why we didn't want our newborn to have a Hepatitis shot or any other such nonsense. Every time they brought the government paperwork in, I told them they would have to contact our attorney.

A few people I know who have had deliveries at that hospital have told me that the nurses still tell stories about it and that we are the strangest people they have ever met. For those of you who have met me, perhaps you might corroborate that sentiment.

[MengerFan]

Thanks Kola and everyone. This has been helpful. I now know the law, have the exemption forms, know I need a "birthing plan," and am confident of dodging the number in NH at this time. It's sad that today I think it would be a handicap for the child to not get a birth certificate. Have you ever heard of someone not having even the birth certificate here?

You don't need a birth certificate to survive in this society yet, but you do need some kind of documentation. I would suggest speaking with your attorney to draw up some identification papers and have them witnessed along with fingerprints and such - essentially a private birth certificate. You can also get a certificate from you church, if you have one. These types of documentation are even accepted by government agencies should your child ever decide to opt into the system.

[kola]

Mengerfan,

Good for you!

I commend you.

If it is ok with you, I would like to speak with you more in detail (PM or another way)

I will also understand if you refuse... to protect your privacy etc. 

btw I know people who (exist, survive and thrive) in todays world without "papers".

Kola

[MengerFan]

PM away, man. I don't hide from anyone on this board. Give a call, shoot an e-mail, whatever.

[yonder]

Despite the SSA saying it isn't necessary I know of someone close who had a child back in California, who isn't aware of these issues discussed on these forums, and the child was automatically given the number and she was also told that if they didn't give all the vaccines at that time that they would take the baby away from her.

That definitely varies from state to state.  Pennsylvania and North Carolina have no such requirement for forced vaccinations (although public school kids may be required to have some of them).  As a homeschool parent I have to keep vaccination records but that doesn't mean I have to have them vaccinated.

Skipping ahead to the happy arrival, have you considered disposable vs. cloth diapers?  Breast feeding vs formula?  Store-bought baby food vs. making your own?  We went the lower impact route on these issues so if you have questions about that stuff feel free to PM me if you want.

[kola]

yonder quote That definitely varies from state to state.  Pennsylvania and North Carolina have no such requirement for forced vaccinations (although public school kids may be required to have some of them

)

You are incorrect. There is NO LAW FORCING vaccinations although the nazi SOB's lie to the common folk. ALL states have exemption status. Public school kids (or daycare) are NOT required to have ANY vaccines.

The NOA (Nazis of Amerika) have fooled 95% of the public...and thry continue to lie and bully commonfolk when it concerns  the vaccine issue.

The vaccine issue is the biggest government scam going... right behind the illegal income tax scam.

Kola

[yonder]

Hey dipshit tone it down some and read my post.  I am not incorrect.  I said "may", as in "possibly".

[kola]

You are FUCKING wrong.

there is NO possibilty they are required so they MAY not be forced to get ANY.

Kola

[Rosie the Riveter]

Anyone know of a good midwife or a "country-type" doctor who delivers babies?

Here you go -- a list and map of NH Homebirth Midwives.... I see a couple of them are in your area

http://www.nhmidwives.org/find.html

Sherry Stevens in Meredith has a great reputation, but to be honest, I know several of these women and have never meet a "bad" homebirth midwife. I also run a breastfeeding support group and talk to new moms and other support group leaders in NH and ME all the time and have never heard a bad word about any homebirth midwife in NH.