How's the water?

[Kat Kanning]

Yum yum, let's have some lead and arsenic too, while we're at it.

http://www.actionpa.org/fluoride/chemicals/accidents-us.html

[Russell Kanning]

We should put trace levels of aspirin in our water too then.
How about just a little mercury ...... or maybe gold ..... just a tiny bit.

[free55]

when my kids were little we had a well.  So the dentist gave them chewable flouride pills to help fight cavities.  Worked OK, I guess.

Milk has been enhanced with fortified vitamin D for decades.  I guess you could find a farm that might sell "untouched" milk.  But, make sure it's pateurized to avoid bacteria. 

"Natural food" stores are not that easy to find in NH, if you're into that sort of thing.  There's a Trader Joes in Nashua I think.

[freedombabe]

I've never taken flouride and my teeth are perfect.  I've whitened them twice (coffee, I guess).

[Kat Kanning]

Press Release   Source: NYS Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation, Inc.
http://biz.yahoo.com/prnews/060407/nyf017.html?.v=48
Harvard Study Shows Fluoridation-Cancer Link, Reports NYSCOF
Friday April 7, 7:00 am ET

NEW YORK, April 7 /PRNewswire/ -- Fluoridation is linked to bone cancer (osteosarcoma) in young boys, reports Harvard's peer-reviewed journal, "Cancer Causes and Control," discloses the New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation.(1)

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This fluoridation-cancer study follows the National Academy of Sciences National Research Council's (NRC) fluoridation study revealing scientific evidence that fluoridation harms subsets of the population.

"Monitor your own intake. [high water drinkers], the elderly and people with severe renal deficiency who have trouble excreting fluoride in their urine are likely to have increased bone-fluoride concentrations," reports the Chicago Tribune. High fluoride levels damage bones and teeth.(2)

Many studies link fluoride to cancer. Examples:

1954 Taylor reports more tumors and shorter lifespan in fluoride treated mice.(3)

1956 Landmark 10-year Newburgh/Kingston fluoridation study shows more cortical bone defects (a suspected precursor to osteosarcoma) in children drinking fluoridated water.(4)

1977 Burk-Yiamouyiannis show cancer death rates in the 10 largest fluoridated U.S. cities were higher and rose faster vs. the 10 largest nonfluoridated U.S. cities after corrections for age, race, and sex.(5)

1977 National Academy of Sciences expresses concern about possible water fluoridation/osteosarcoma link based on the Newburgh /Kingston cortical bone defect evidence.(6)

1977 Congressional hearings based on the Burk/Yiamouyiannis findings lead to fluoride cancer testing in rodents by the National Toxicology Program (NTP).(6)

1990 NTP reports fluoride is an "equivocal" (may or may not) cause of cancer. EPA drinking water senior toxicologist, William Marcus PhD, reports results were suspiciously downgraded in the final report.(7)

1990 National Cancer Institute finds more osteosarcoma in young males in fluoridated vs unfluoridated areas; but finds cause to dismiss the results.(6)

1990 Procter & Gamble (P&G) makes public a 1981-1983 study showing more bone tumors in fluoride-treated rats but claims they were not statistically significant. Another P&G study finds a significant increase in benign bone tumors in fluoride treated mice.(6)

1992 New Jersey Department of Health study shows osteosarcoma rates higher among young males in fluoridated vs unfluoridated regions of New Jersey (6) - report's title changed to obscure connection to fluoridation.

1993 Yiamouyiannis' analysis of National Cancer Institute's cancer data confirms fluoridation/osteosarcoma link in males.(6)

2001 Bassin's Harvard Dissertation shows osteosarcoma in boys in fluoridated areas is five times higher than in non-fluoridated areas.(6) Report uncovered in rare books section of library.

2004 CM Douglass, Bassin's Harvard dissertation advisor claims there's no evidence of a fluoridation-osteosarcoma link in written testimony to the NRC.

2006 NRC Panel finds cancer/fluoride link plausible

2006 (May issue) Bassin's osteosarcoma/fluoridation study is published in "Cancer Causes and Control," along with Douglass' letter downplaying Bassin's peer-reviewed published findings using unpublished, unfinished, non-peer-reviewed data.

"EPA has more than enough evidence to shut down fluoridation, right now, with a special advisory," says retired EPA scientist, Robert Carton, PhD. "The safe drinking water act requires the EPA to act to protect all populations from known or anticipated harm(," says Carton.

    References: http://tinyurl.com/6kqtu

    http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof  nyscof@aol.com

    http://www.fluorideaction.net

[cathleeninnh]

Does anyone here actually have a flouride filtering system? As I understand it, to filter flouride you must use either aluminum oxide or anion exchange. And to protect yourself, your whole system must be filtered to prevent poisoning during bathing and clothes washing.

I was pleased to see Derry on the list of towns who do not flouridate, but dismayed to find that much of Derry is supplied with water from Manchester. 

Cathleen

[Russell Kanning]

I recommend moving to Keene.

[Kat Kanning]

Apparently the type of filter we use - carbon/ceramic - only removes about 50% of the fluoride.  Here's one kind that supposedly works better:

http://www.wholly-water.com/

Also, a reverse osmosis system will take the fluoride out.

[Kat Kanning]

New Research: Fluoride Damages Children's Liver and Kidneys (NYSCOF)

PRNewwire | August 23 2006

Fluoride in drinking water damages children's liver and kidney functions, according to a new study in "Environmental Research"(1), reports the New York State Coalition Opposed to Fluoridation (NYSCOF).
Xiong and colleagues write, "Our results suggest that drinking water fluoride levels over 2.0 mg/L can cause damage to liver and kidney functions in children." Further, dental fluorosis (fluoride-discolored teeth) can be an indicator of kidney function harm, they report.

Researchers grouped 210 Chinese children (aged 10 - 12 years old) by drinking water fluoride levels (averaging 0.76; 1.47; 2.58; and 4.5l mg/L). Dental fluorosis rates, respectively, were 15%, 41%, 79% and 94%.

Blood serum and urine samples revealed:

-- fluoride levels increased as water fluoride levels increased

-- liver and kidney enzymes elevated, indicative of liver or kidney
damage, in children drinking water with over 2mg fluoride per liter.

-- liver function can be damaged without dental fluorosis

"Dose-effect relationship between water fluoride levels and damage to liver and kidney functions in animals has been reported," the authors write. However, this is one of the few to do so in humans. The liver and kidneys are especially susceptible to fluoride toxicity, they write.

Paul Beeber, NYSCOF President says, "2 mg fluoride daily is very often exceeded from food, beverages, pharmaceuticals, and dental products. Clearly this is more evidence showing fluoridation is not only harmful, but unethical and immoral," says Beeber.

To prevent crippling skeletal fluorosis, the Environmental Protection Agency set 4 mg/L as the maximum fluoride contamination of drinking water. But this doesn't protect all Americans from all of fluoride's adverse effects, according to a recent National Academy of Sciences (NAS) fluoride panel(2)

After reviewing hundreds of studies over 3-1/2 years, at least three scientists on the NAS panel recommend water fluoride levels be lowered well under 1 mg/L -- the current level dentists claim is optimal to reduce cavities, and deliberately added to public water supplies.(3)

"Fluoridated water is also linked to thyroid dysfunction, bone damage and cancer in humans -- even at 1 mg/L," says Beeber. "Americans are guinea pigs for the country's failed fluoridation experiment."

More information about fluoride's adverse kidney effects here: http://www.fluoridealert.org/health/kidney

Contact: Paul Beeber, Esq., 516-433-8882, nyscof@aol.com


http://www.orgsites.com/ny/nyscof

Paul Connett, Ph.D, Retired Chemistry Professor Emeritus and

Executive Director, Fluoride Action Network, 315-379-9200


http://www.fluorideaction.net

References:

1) http://tinyurl.com/l4hho

2) http://www.nap.edu/catalog/11571.html

3) http://www.fluoridealert.org/conference/about.htm

[Geezer]

My ground well tests 0% flouride, 0% radon, 0% hydro carbons, 0% e-co;i,  PH a tiny high. Cemist states touch it and you should be beaten.

The FREE spring at the bottom of my driveway 1000+ feet from house is tested weekly by the stae with the same results. It has put out 8 gallons a minut minimum since it was put out for PUBLIC use in 1884.

Water in NH is mostly good when you get away from the couple of cities in the lower part or what is known as MA north.

[mvpel]

[GnuAttitude22]

Speaking of water, I've heard that the lakes in NH are contaiminated with high mercury levels.  ???

Anyone know about that? 

[FrankChodorov]

Speaking of water, I've heard that the lakes in NH are contaiminated with high mercury levels.  ???

Anyone know about that? 

yes and no - we are the dump for mid-west power plants because we are downwind.

the fish are contaiminated because they concentrate levels within their bodies.

[Russell Kanning]

Speaking of water, I've heard that the lakes in NH are contaiminated with high mercury levels.  ???

be afraid ... be very afraid

[GnuAttitude22]

Speaking of water, I've heard that the lakes in NH are contaiminated with high mercury levels.  ???

be afraid ... be very afraid

Well that just sucks.  I was really amped on moving up to NH, but the news of high levels of mercury in the water and fish have certainly dampened my spirits.