Freeing Yourself From Politics

[dalebert]

I've only watched a little of it, but the title sure got my attention. Seems good so far. I'll have to watch the rest later as I'm off to my writer's group.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kB6uQcGo60I

[dalebert]

I just happened across this interesting nugget on an old thread on FTL.

If I was a statist and president of a state I would make sure that there would be a libertarian party in the state if it didn't already exist so make sure that the people question the whole morality of the state still wouldn't want to dismantle the state.

[Russell Kanning]

I just can't watch a 30 minute video ... maybe someday

[Kat Kanning]

That was good.  I made Russell watch it too.    Now he's free.

[Eli]

I just happened across this interesting nugget on an old thread on FTL.

If I was a statist and president of a state I would make sure that there would be a libertarian party in the state if it didn't already exist so make sure that the people question the whole morality of the state still wouldn't want to dismantle the state.

Brad Spangler just made pretty much the same argument in a blogpost to the tune of "I think the libertarian party should be dismantled."

[Friday]

Ohhhhh, the Stefmeister's dissin' the FSP (and the LP, and Ron Paul... I bet by the time I make it to the end of this vid, he'll have dissed my mother ... )   

[Pat K]

Ohhhhh, the Stefmeister's dissin' the FSP (and the LP, and Ron Paul... I bet by the time I make it to the end of this vid, he'll have dissed my mother ... )   

Your mom is safe, not that I want to ruin it for ya.

[Russell Kanning]

Ohhhhh, the Stefmeister's dissin' the FSP (and the LP, and Ron Paul... I bet by the time I make it to the end of this vid, he'll have dissed my mother ... )  

he seems kinda angry sometimes
I don't see how the FSP hurts him ... or is outside of his methods. He even seems to have a following amongst its members.

[Friday]

Ohhhhh, the Stefmeister's dissin' the FSP (and the LP, and Ron Paul... I bet by the time I make it to the end of this vid, he'll have dissed my mother ... )   

Your mom is safe, not that I want to ruin it for ya.

PatK, if you keep listening to FreeDomainRadio, you're going to get talked out of moving here!

[malcolm]

Ohhhhh, the Stefmeister's dissin' the FSP (and the LP, and Ron Paul... I bet by the time I make it to the end of this vid, he'll have dissed my mother ... )   

Your mom is safe, not that I want to ruin it for ya.

PatK, if you keep listening to FreeDomainRadio, you're going to get talked out of moving here!

(Raising my hand.)  I'm almost there.  My original plan was to move to NH in August, but besides marginally lower taxes, I'm not sure what I would gain.  I might as well move to Singapore for lower taxes (as I nearly did a while back).  Stef hit on something eating at me from inside.

I don't want to reform the State.  I want to be free from it's grasp.

I don't want to free others anymore; they don't want to be free.

And even those who choose freedom from the State often find other, softer forms of slavery.  Something like the heroin addict who switches to methadone.

:-(

[Pat K]

Ohhhhh, the Stefmeister's dissin' the FSP (and the LP, and Ron Paul... I bet by the time I make it to the end of this vid, he'll have dissed my mother ... )   

Your mom is safe, not that I want to ruin it for ya.

PatK, if you keep listening to FreeDomainRadio, you're going to get talked out of moving here!

Short answer, nope, I will be there. Sooner or later
I will be your neighbor.(you poor fucks)

I have to think the longer answer over a little before I write it.

[MengerFan]

Malcolm, I may be wrong, but I don't think the entire point of the FSP is to take over the government. I am Stef-type anarchist and I think the FSP can be most effective as a focal point for gathering around people that you like, which is what real personal freedom is all about.

Get rid of the statists you are probably surrounded with now, and come keep it real with us. Sure, some of us think they can use the state to change the nature of the state, but they will come around in time.

[dalebert]

I bet Stef isn't very aware of the out of the system porcs. I agree. For me it's about being near people I like and trust. I have difficulty even trusting a statist because they have their morals all screwed up. Surrounding yourself with a community of people who are trustworthy decent people is a big part of achieving more personal liberty, IMHO.

[Pat K]

So now my longer answer. This will be one
of my usual rambling cluster fucks. So if
you can stop reading here if thats not for
you.

So if I am starting to agree with Stef, why
would I want to be moving to cold ass,
snowy NH?

Well I would like to write some true intellectual
treatise here but I can't. Because this will be about
feelings.(AAAHHHHHHHH) Yes feelings and their
worth. (sorry Ayn )

Despite the fact that we are stand alone type
folk. We also like to be around folk of like mind,
of good values and deeds,were freedom is held
sincerely.
In NH you can be, you crazy early moving folk
have proved this to me over and over.

Tis rare to see joy (thats right dammit I wrote joy)
in people these days. I see it in NH among the FSP
movers. Smiling, joking, working together, it is enough
to make a NYer sick. How much is that worth?

Why even anti-social people come out and have a good time.
Curmudgeons have been known to laugh. None of it is forced
it is simply the free interaction of people with good spirit.
You can come to a gathering and go home refreshed.
How much is that worth?

Oh don't get me wrong, its not all fun.You will also see hurt.
True hurt (not the fake oh I am concerned B.S. kind) in the
eyes of friends.The gut kind of hurt, when some one is
dragged off to jail or is sick or falls on bad times.
How much is that worth?

You will disagree with people, some times greatly.
Each side will fight for their point of view,  you will be forced to think and refine your point of view
You might even start agreeing with Stef or some
sharp cartoon drawing, nap stealing SOB.
How much is that worth?

You might change your mind you might not.
You might not be happy with some folk some days.
But you can still call them friend. You can still work and
live with them. You can at least be happy they have
a point of view and are not eating chips on a couch
in their parents house. Living off your tax dollars.
How much is that worth?

All of the above is worth a lot to me.

It is worth a lot to the folks in NH even
if they wont admit it.

So while it will be later than some
sooner or later, I will see you in the
Shire.

[Kat Kanning]

I bet it's just the NH beer he likes 

So now my longer answer. This will be one
of my usual rambling cluster fucks. So if
you can stop reading here if thats not for
you.

So if I am starting to agree with Stef, why
would I want to be moving to cold ass,
snowy NH?

Well I would like to write some true intellectual
treatise here but I can't. Because this will be about
feelings.(AAAHHHHHHHH) Yes feelings and their
worth. (sorry Ayn )

Despite the fact that we are stand alone type
folk. We also like to be around folk of like mind,
of good values and deeds,were freedom is held
sincerely.
In NH you can be, you crazy early moving folk
have proved this to me over and over.

Tis rare to see joy (thats right dammit I wrote joy)
in people these days. I see it in NH among the FSP
movers. Smiling, joking, working together, it is enough
to make a NYer sick. How much is that worth?

Why even anti-social people come out and have a good time.
Curmudgeons have been known to laugh. None of it is forced
it is simply the free interaction of people with good spirit.
You can come to a gathering and go home refreshed.
How much is that worth?

Oh don't get me wrong, its not all fun.You will also see hurt.
True hurt (not the fake oh I am concerned B.S. kind) in the
eyes of friends.The gut kind of hurt, when some one is
dragged off to jail or is sick or falls on bad times.
How much is that worth?

You will disagree with people, some times greatly.
Each side will fight for their point of view,  you will be forced to think and refine your point of view
You might even start agreeing with Stef or some
sharp cartoon drawing, nap stealing SOB.
How much is that worth?

You might change your mind you might not.
You might not be happy with some folk some days.
But you can still call them friend. You can still work and
live with them. You can at least be happy they have
a point of view and are not eating chips on a couch
in their parents house. Living off your tax dollars.
How much is that worth?

All of the above is worth a lot to me.

It is worth a lot to the folks in NH even
if they wont admit it.

So while it will be later than some
sooner or later, I will see you in the
Shire.