LIBERTY DOLLAR ALERT - Bernard's latest e-mail

[jaqeboy]

That's great - I'm sure he'll appreciate it. I'll bet it feels kinda lonely in there. It'll be good for his spirits to know people out here care about him.

[Mike Barskey]

Kevin is also on Mail-to-Jail.

[jaqeboy]

That's great, Mike. I'm sure Kevin appreciates it. Be sure to review the letter from Janice to make sure everything in the address is correct - looks like they are very picky!

[jaqeboy]

Got this info on putting money into Kevin's phone account. I haven't done it, so I don't know if this information gets it done. If anyone has tried it and worked the bugs out of it, could you please report your results. This is what I got - it just seems incomplete.

866-232-1899
Jail Mecklenburg

Wm Kevin PID #377054
touchpay.com

[jaqeboy]

LIBERTY DOLLAR NEWS:
July 2009 Vol. 11 No. 07

Liberty Dollar Closed!!

Who is suffering the biggest and most pervasive monetary losses? U.S. households have lost the most: $1.39 trillion in the third and fourth quarters of 2007... a gigantic $10.89 trillion in 2008... $1.33 trillion in the first quarter of 2009... $13.87 trillion at the end of March 2009 - by far these are the worst household losses of all times with equally massive consequences for 2010. The question is: Are you going to allow the government money to deprive your family of its purchasing power and become an indebted monetary slavery or are you going to take action and help us win? This is your opportunity to take a stand for a value based private voluntary barter currency vs. government money made out of fowl hot air.

Table of Contents:
1. Liberty Dollar - Ambushed & Closed
2. Pending Orders
3. Please Donate Something
4. Come to the Trial
5. News Articles
6. US Debt Clock is Ticking
7. On a Happy Note
8. Thank you

Dear Liberty Dollar Supporters!

1. Liberty Dollar - Ambushed & Closed

It is with a very heavy heart that I regret to inform you that I have suspended (closed) the Liberty Dollar operation... until I am acquitted.

Trust me, after 23 years of research and development plus almost 11 years of practical application in the marketplace, I did not make this decision easily. When I discovered that the FBI had issued an arrest warrant for me, I "self reported" i.e. turned myself in to the US Marshals on June 4, 2009. After I was booked and made a very quick court appearance in Fort Myers, Florida, I was released on an Appearance Bond with certain terms such as: don't violate any laws, call every Tuesday, fax a report every month, etc. But when I made my "Initial Appearance" in the US District Court in Charlotte on July 6, 2009, I was ambushed by the DOJ Prosecutor with FBI Agent Romaguolo grinning by his side. At the Prosecutor's insistence, Judge Cayer issued an Oral Order: (Restricted)Setting Conditions of Release with additional condition: * Defendants shall not circulate or aid in the circulation of any coins or currency in relation to the Liberty Dollar Operation* by Magistrate Judge David S. Cayer on 7/6/09. Please note this is not exactly what the Judge said in court, this is the written record, so upon leaving the courtroom I thought the Liberty Dollar was still secure even though the Judge's wording was vague. But it should not be any surprise to you that vagueness could be deliberately used against me. Plus I initially thought that if I was incarcerated, I could bail out, but that turned out to be impossible. While the Eighth Amendment states: "Excessive bail shall not be required...," it does not specify that a bail must be set. So the US Congress passed a law that permits Federal Courts to set no bail. The US Supreme Court has upheld that law as Congress legally passed it. The simple truth is that Federal Courts in North Carolina do not set any bail. If you are arrested for a federal offense in North Carolina you are either out on an Appearance Bond or you sit in jail until your trial, which is usually over a year for serious offenses such as counterfeiting and murder. Given such a stern "choice," I "chose" the Appearance Bond with all its encumbering terms and am forced to close the Liberty Dollar until I am acquitted. I trust you can commiserate with my "decision."

My most heartfelt thanks for your support of the Liberty Dollar at its hour of need and in face of such uncertainty. You have been WONDERFUL and I am deeply grateful for your support.

With your continued help we can win this case!

I am represented by: Deke Falls

Kevin Innes is represented by: Claire J. Rauscher

Sarah Bledsoe is represented by: Joe von Kallist

Rachelle Moseley is represented by: Matthew Pruden

2. Pending Orders

I regret that your pending order is delayed. We are pursuing legal action so we can fill all orders placed before the Judge issued the Oral Order. I will contact you if you placed an order after the Oral Order of July 6. Your continued patience would be greatly appreciated as we give this our best shot. IF YOU PAID WITH A CREDIT/DEBIT CARD - PLEASE DO NOT CHARGE BACK OR CANCEL YOUR ORDER WITH YOUR CARD COMPANY... AS THIS WILL HAVE A DISASTROUS EFFECT ON THE LIBERTY DOLLAR. If you must cancel your order, please email me Editor@LibertyDollar.org and I will contact you personally. We are working on this matter and will resolve it ASAP. I will also send an email to you as soon as I know when you can expect your order.

3. Please Donate Something

Now, if you think that the Liberty Dollar case is vitally important to the future of free
market money that is value based, especially honest money of just weights and measures, then I invite and encourage you to take action. No, you don't have to "get involved." All you need to do is send something. Money in any form is good or anything we can sell on eBay is OK too. While the government has to pay for our defense, we still have to cover transportation and expenses for meetings with our attorneys and the trial. If you prefer value based, private money that appreciates vs. depreciating fiat government money - please do something to support the Liberty Dollar. Please note: Any donation is not for the Legal Defense Fund as the Judge has barred us from raising funds for our defense because the government is paying for our defense. Sweet, eh? Please send your donations to Liberty Dollar, 527 N. Green River Road, Suite 158, Evansville IN 47715. Thanks again for your continued support.

4. Come to the Trial

Got a dog in this fight? My apologies if you are holding some of the Warehouse Receipts, had your property confiscated or have not received your order. I encourage you to plan now to come to the trial that most likely will be in the first part of 2010. As the government has been working on their case for two years, we need sufficient time to organize our case and schedule witnesses, etc. Plan now for a trial in January at the earliest and I will keep you informed via the monthly Liberty Dollar News as we count down to liberating the Liberty Dollar and returning your property.

5. Two News Articles

Several news articles have hit the press.
The Morning News - Springdale, Arkansas ran a story about the Ozark Hours that specifically pointed out that it was "Not A Liberty Dollar." That is probably a good thing.J Click HERE to read.

The Best of The S&A Digest- Weekend Edition ran an article that "...applaud the fact that a few Americans at least have gotten fed up enough with the government's funny money and done something about it." Click HERE to read the whole article.

6. US Debt Clock is Ticking

Have you been keeping an eye on the US Debt Clock? You should! Especially if you think the world is headed toward a runaway hyperinflationary depression. History is very compelling on this point. In fact, every hyperinflationary currency has ended in a dictator. Don't believe me? Just take a quick read of the independent opinions HERE. I also highly recommend reading: "Fiat Money Inflation in France" by Andrew Dickson White. It is short and super! Do you remember the stories of people using wheelbarrows of money to pay for dinner? Well, just consider this: A few months ago, one ounce of .999 fine silver cost about $12 USD just as it cost 12 German marks to buy one ounce of silver in January 1919. But just four years later in November 1923, when Hitler said he was going to CHANGE Germany, the same ounce of silver cost 543,750,000,000! Did those stubborn Germans protect their purchasing power from the hyperinflation? Hell no! Did they lose everything? Hell yes! Did Hitler change Germany? Yes! Makes one wonder how Obama will "change" America. So I urge you to protect yourself from government money! Buy silver!!! And keep buying silver until a sound value based monetary system returns to the market place. Americans and all the people of the world are being pushed towards a global runaway hyperinflationary depression. Not since the Fall of Rome and the 500 years of the Dark Ages has your money been in such danger of debasement. Don't believe me? Just check out the US Debt Clock.. Time is ticking and you are losing your purchasing power with every tick. Please take action - before it is too late!

7. On a Happy Note

Meanwhile, as the world economic system rushes towards a dynamic collapse... Judge Cayer also granted my request to escort my 90-year young mother to the Senior Olympics at Stanford University where she hopes to win some medals for swimming in the 90-94 age bracket - in spite of very tough competition. I will report the results next month.

8. Thank you

Thank you for your support, prayers, orders and on rare occasions - donations. I sincerely regret the government is wrongfully holding your property and causing difficulties in filling your order at this time. I will continue to work tirelessly to resolve these issues and secure the return of your property ASAP.

Closing Remarks:

Seems like we should do something to commemorate the 11th anniversary of the Liberty Dollar on October 1. If you have any suggestions, other than filling your order and returning your property, please email them to me.

Again, my thanks for your continued support. These are tough times and it takes tough people to bring about a free and independent currency that provides us with "just weights and measures" and throw off the yoke of a manipulated monetary/tax system and generate a peaceful and prosperous society.

Thank you again for all your efforts to return America to value - one dollar at a time!

Bernard von NotHaus
Monetary Architect/Editor
Editor@LibertyDollar.org
www.LibertyDollar.org
888.LIB.DOLLAR
888.421.6181

[RevDebbie]

Where did you find this alert?  I can't seem to locate it on Liberty Dollar's website.

[jaqeboy]

It's an email from Bernard. I can fwd it to you, but I just copied and pasted the whole thing.

[Little Owl]

Don't hold your breath on those orders.  Bernard will NOT be acquitted.  You heard it here first.

[Lloyd Danforth]

Maybe I'm missing something here.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  He was holding peoples Silver (Gold?Money?).  He let the feds take it.  He  made no attempt to pay these people.  He continued to sell Silver.

[Little Owl]

Maybe I'm missing something here.  Correct me if I'm wrong.  He was holding peoples Silver (Gold?Money?).  He let the feds take it.  He  made no attempt to pay these people.  He continued to sell Silver.

You're not missing anything Lloyd, unless you're holding warehouse certificates or a pending LD order.  This man is simply not the beacon of liberty that he's allowing everybody to believe.  The prose on the LD website is a masterpiece of flawed logic and appeals to the gullible.  Hard lessons will be learned, first by his customers and then by Bernard himself.

I won't speak to the man's motives because I honestly cannot tell what drives him, but the LD model was flawed from the get-go.  Bernard taunted the feds to take action.  Now that they have he's crying "Uncle" and begging people to send yet more money.

Specie-based barter transactions are just fine, and as far as I can tell the Fed has no problem with them.  Silver rounds from the Northwest Territorial Mint are available for a much better price than LDs and even contain the marking "One Silver Trade Unit" - highly suggestive of bartering use.  Yet I hear of no threats from the federal government, and when I place an order, the stuff actually arrives (albeit rather slowly).

IMHO, the Liberty Dollar has pushed back monetary reform, not promoted it.  When the dust clears, people will be more suspicious of future, perhaps more practical, financial reform movements.  In the long run, I believe the LD has been a disservice to the liberty movement.

[Mike Barskey]

In the long run, I believe the LD has been a disservice to the liberty movement.

While I don't personally use LD or like their model, I see some positive aspects of it, too. And if people want to deal with LD voluntarily, that's fine with me. All that aside, I still don't accept the "poisoning the well" argument.

[Little Owl]

There were some positive aspects of the Liberty Dollar, simply not enough of them.

Concerning transactions, liberty-minded people cherish "Informed Consent".  This is where I think the LD falls short.  I believe that some of LD's claims were misleading, such as the doubling of money during a move-up and the already disproven security of Warehouse Certificates.  To someone unfamiliar with the program, the lack of information can be more acute.  This is part of the government's claim, that some people were duped about the nature of the Liberty Dollar.

I do believe this poisons the well.  Liberty Dollars appealed to a band of individuals: Those wise enough to see the problems with fiat currency and the Federal Reserve, yet foolish enough not to notice the obvious flaws in the Liberty Dollar system.  If Bernard and his group are convicted, as I believe they will be, well-meaning members of this group could be dissuaded from participating in any future endeavor.

People on the idiot side of the spectrum (ie. those who love the Fed and love fiat currency) as well as the well-informed (those who recognized the flaws in both systems) will not be affected.

Don't get me wrong.  I've read most of the published legal papers about this case (arrest warrants, search warrants, etc.) and believe that 75% of the government's claims are crap and won't stick.  But I do think there might be enough left over for a conviction.  I'm on the fence about the "similitude" charge.

[mclovin]

Well finally this got Kevin in trouble haha. It took him years and years, then jail time to finally contact his son. Not that it made much of a difference though, he was a bad father and liar in the first place. Of course he would never admit or apologize to that. He should stay in jail. But it wont make much of a difference in the end. I dont think he will ever change. I can only hope...

[David]

Hasn't Liberty Dollar made enough money to cough up $500 for one of their own?

Am I the only person who doesn't trust this group?

The point about the slow process is certainly legit.  Uncle Sam needs to speed things up or give the stuff back.

They don't have any money because uncle sam seized it.  That is why they need more money. 

[Little Owl]

They don't have any money because uncle sam seized it.  That is why they need more money

Danger Will Robinson, Danger.  Gullibility levels at maximum.  Danger, Danger...

Did the feds seize their personal assets (which I understand in Bernard's case are considerable)?  LD seemed to have enough money after the raid to keep their store up until specifically ordered to take it down.