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List of anarchists - help me out here

Started by Caleb, March 08, 2008, 08:59 PM NHFT

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Caleb

Let me know who you think should be added or deleted from my list of anarchists:

Jesus Christ
Leo Tolstoy
Henry David Thoreau
Oscar Wilde
Emma Goldman
Dorothy Day
John Lennon
William Blake
George Carlin
Edward Abbey
Al Lewis "Grandpa Munster"
Thomas Paine
Abbie Hoffman
Jerry Rubin
Lysander Spooner
Hunter S Thompson
Howard Zinn
H.L. Mencken
William Lloyd Garrison
Mark Twain
David Friedman
JRR Tolkien
Woody Allen

PattyLee loves dogs

Add:

David Friedman
The Tannehills

Chomsky? More of a fuzzy-minded redistributionist, from what I've read of his. IMO not anarchist at all, just Socialist that doesn't like the logical consequences of his own views.

Jared


Pat K


Caleb

yeah, chomsky barely made the cut, making it only because he claims to be an anarchist, but I may cut him from the final list because he is way too much of a government apologist for me to label him as an anarchist.

Lennon, on the other hand, stays on my list. I think he was a communist, not a socialist, and he was an anarchist, "Imagine there's no country..."

Jared

Quote from: Caleb on March 09, 2008, 01:10 AM NHFT
yeah, chomsky barely made the cut, making it only because he claims to be an anarchist, but I may cut him from the final list because he is way too much of a government apologist for me to label him as an anarchist.

Lennon, on the other hand, stays on my list. I think he was a communist, not a socialist, and he was an anarchist, "Imagine there's no country..."

how can one be a communist and an anarchist at the same time? i've never had much respect for the guy.

hwrnhetcxyc

Quote from: Caleb on March 08, 2008, 08:59 PM NHFT
Let me know who you think should be added

Wendy McElroy
Benjamin Tucker
Carl Watner

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: Jared on March 09, 2008, 08:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on March 09, 2008, 01:10 AM NHFT
yeah, chomsky barely made the cut, making it only because he claims to be an anarchist, but I may cut him from the final list because he is way too much of a government apologist for me to label him as an anarchist.

Lennon, on the other hand, stays on my list. I think he was a communist, not a socialist, and he was an anarchist, "Imagine there's no country..."

how can one be a communist and an anarchist at the same time? i've never had much respect for the guy.

Voluntary collectivism.

KBCraig

How are you defining "anarchist"? Lots of people claim that label, when they're actually advocates of violent collectivist force.


Russell Kanning

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on March 09, 2008, 11:03 AM NHFT
Voluntary collectivism.
amen brother .... those guys don't throw you in jail or kill you

Caleb

Quote from: Vitruvian on March 09, 2008, 11:26 AM NHFT
Edward Abbey
Murray Rothbard
Moses Harman
Samuel Edward Konkin III
Voltairine de Cleyre
William Godwin

Yeah. I know all those people. But I'm hoping for a list of anarchists whose names most people will recognize. I don't want a lot of `huh? Who is he? Who is she?' with my list from the man on the street.

Caleb

Quote from: Jared on March 09, 2008, 08:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on March 09, 2008, 01:10 AM NHFT
yeah, chomsky barely made the cut, making it only because he claims to be an anarchist, but I may cut him from the final list because he is way too much of a government apologist for me to label him as an anarchist.

Lennon, on the other hand, stays on my list. I think he was a communist, not a socialist, and he was an anarchist, "Imagine there's no country..."

how can one be a communist and an anarchist at the same time? i've never had much respect for the guy.

A communist is, by definition, an anarchist. The problem with communists is that a lot of them are Marxists. Marxism advocates installing anarcho-communism via an intermediary stage of totalitarian socialism.

Lennon, on the other hand, always promoted people jumping straight to communism. Hence "I hope one day you'll join us". He wanted people to educate themselves, and then mentally free themselves from the capitalist state.

I really respect Lennon. He's in my top five list.

KBCraig


Jared

Quote from: Caleb on March 09, 2008, 12:08 PM NHFT
Quote from: Jared on March 09, 2008, 08:56 AM NHFT
Quote from: Caleb on March 09, 2008, 01:10 AM NHFT
yeah, chomsky barely made the cut, making it only because he claims to be an anarchist, but I may cut him from the final list because he is way too much of a government apologist for me to label him as an anarchist.

Lennon, on the other hand, stays on my list. I think he was a communist, not a socialist, and he was an anarchist, "Imagine there's no country..."

how can one be a communist and an anarchist at the same time? i've never had much respect for the guy.

A communist is, by definition, an anarchist. The problem with communists is that a lot of them are Marxists. Marxism advocates installing anarcho-communism via an intermediary stage of totalitarian socialism.

Lennon, on the other hand, always promoted people jumping straight to communism. Hence "I hope one day you'll join us". He wanted people to educate themselves, and then mentally free themselves from the capitalist state.

I really respect Lennon. He's in my top five list.

ok, so let's be clear here. did lennon support government or did he support liberty? my impression was always that he supported a socialist government in america. i've been wrong before.