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Calvin and Hobbes explain why public schools fail

Started by PattyLee loves dogs, March 31, 2008, 01:42 PM NHFT

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dalebert


Caleb


J’raxis 270145

Quote from: dalebert on March 31, 2008, 02:58 PM NHFT
Quote from: telomerase on March 31, 2008, 01:42 PM NHFT
http://www.s-anand.net/calvinandhobbes.html#19891018

Interesting. They post the cartoon text as well. I suspect they do it for the same reasons I do.

By the way, you can wrap that text in HTML such as this:—


<div style="display: none">
...text...
</div>


and it won't display to the user, but search engines still see it (since it's still in the code).

dalebert

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on March 31, 2008, 03:32 PM NHFT
By the way, you can wrap that text in HTML...

and it won't display to the user, but search engines still see it (since it's still in the code).

Someone told me Google frowns on that and can penalize you in searches or something like that.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: dalebert on April 01, 2008, 10:12 AM NHFT
Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on March 31, 2008, 03:32 PM NHFT
By the way, you can wrap that text in HTML...

and it won't display to the user, but search engines still see it (since it's still in the code).

Someone told me Google frowns on that and can penalize you in searches or something like that.

They frown on keyword-stuffing, which is usually done using that technique. I've not heard of them going after just any use of display:none, but then again I'm no expert on Google. I've had some hidden text on some of my sites for a while (e.g., variants of J'raxis, Iraxius, and so on) and haven't had any problems.

I don't use "display: none" directly, but a class attribute, the class being defined as "display: none" and located in an external CSS stylesheet. So maybe they are doing automatic scans for the style attribute and just missing me. >:D

Another thing you might be able to do (if WordPress is this flexible?) is put the text in the description <meta/> tag. I think Google picks up on that for search queries, and they usually display the description on search results instead of the page text, if the tag is present.

dalebert

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on April 01, 2008, 05:14 PM NHFT
Another thing you might be able to do (if WordPress is this flexible?) is put the text in the description <meta/> tag. I think Google picks up on that for search queries, and they usually display the description on search results instead of the page text, if the tag is present.

You know, I thought that was a practice that was now out-dated. I know it used to be a common practice at least. I think it's not a bad idea. I'd rather describe the cartoon and make sure relevant key words are there than just post the text. The text isn't necessarily very descriptive of the content.

J’raxis 270145

<meta/> keywords and description tags have been so highly abused by spammers that I think they're mostly ignored by search engines for scoring/ranking purposes, but Google does indeed display the page description if one exists.

Lloyd Danforth

I read a lot of comic strips. Always have.  I miss Calvin and Hobbs. Here is a link to some comics.  Clicking on 'web comics' up on the top will get you even more.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/artsandliving/comics/index.html

Caleb

Calvin was one of my favorites growing up too. I always got a kick out of it when he would run poll numbers for his dad.


SethCohn

Quote from: J'raxis 270145 on April 01, 2008, 05:14 PM NHFT
I don't use "display: none" directly, but a class attribute, the class being defined as "display: none" and located in an external CSS stylesheet.

That is the correct way of doing it... Google doesn't read css. Another advantage of this method is that you can add a javascripty "Display the text from this cartoon button" which changes the class and shows the text only if desired

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Another thing you might be able to do (if WordPress is this flexible?) is put the text in the description <meta/> tag. I think Google picks up on that for search queries, and they usually display the description on search results instead of the page text, if the tag is present.

The meta's are sorta obsolete... though the description helps with Google's displayed results, as you mention, it doesn't usually count toward search juice.