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When is the "Shire Silver" Going to Come Out?

Started by Luke S, April 07, 2008, 04:24 PM NHFT

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Luke S

Dave Ridley mentioned this new currency called "Shire Silver" that people in New Hampshire are going to make, since the Feds raided the Liberty Dollar and took everything away from them.

Anyway, now since we've established that USC Title blah blah blah Section blah blah blah doesn't prohibit alternate curriencies, I want some. And even though I don't live in New Hampshire, I want some anyway. Just make sure you choose a good design, not an ugly design.

So I guess my question is when is the "Shire Silver" going to come out, and when can I get some?

ReverendRyan



Production has been set back due to unforeseen circumstances, but PM me your real world name, location, and quantity you want, and I'll put you on the preorder list.

Ron Helwig

Quote from: Luke S on April 07, 2008, 04:24 PM NHFT
So I guess my question is when is the "Shire Silver" going to come out, and when can I get some?

My understanding was that it is/was supposed to be ready in time for PorcFest. I think we're still on track, although I gotta get off my butt and do more work on it.

TackleTheWorld

What's your biggest problem, Ron?
Maybe we can help.

Luke S

Quote from: ReverendRyan on April 07, 2008, 05:27 PM NHFT


Production has been set back due to unforeseen circumstances, but PM me your real world name, location, and quantity you want, and I'll put you on the preorder list.

Hang on here. These don't look like coins. These look like bars. So is Shire Silver going to be in the form of bars?

ReverendRyan

Quote from: Luke S on April 08, 2008, 12:03 PM NHFT
Hang on here. These don't look like coins. These look like bars. So is Shire Silver going to be in the form of bars?

Define "coin" and "bar"

Beth221

i have seen a close replica of the flower/bullet icon with another company before...  It is very similar to some tv commercial ad for a pharmaceutical drug. 

Luke S

Quote from: ReverendRyan on April 08, 2008, 12:22 PM NHFT
Quote from: Luke S on April 08, 2008, 12:03 PM NHFT
Hang on here. These don't look like coins. These look like bars. So is Shire Silver going to be in the form of bars?

Define "coin" and "bar"

Well not coin, I meant circular medallion. By "bar", I meant a square or rectangular shaped object. What I mean to ask is on the Ridley video, the Shire Silver I saw were circular disks. Now on here, the Shire Silver I'm seeing are rectangular and square objects. So I suppose I'm just kind of surprised that Shire Silver is going to be in the form of bars, rather than coins, which is what I saw on the Ridley video.

Luke S

Also, the two s's stuck together on Shire Silver looks like the symbol for "section".

ReverendRyan

What Dave showed were entries and suggestions.


Luke S

Now my next question is: are the folks in charge of this going to keep the main stockpile of Shire Silver hidden so the government can't steal it all like they did with the liberty dollar?

ReverendRyan

Nope, it's an open source currency. We're just establishing some parameters and running the first pieces as a proof of concept. It's mint-on-demand essentially.

LD screwed up by issuing warehouse certificates. I see no warehouse. But it wouldn't be as much of an issue if LD hadn't made the damn things so close to looking like govt currency in the 1st place. Another reason for the shape decision: it screams THIS IS NOT LEGAL TENDER!

Ron Helwig

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on April 08, 2008, 11:36 AM NHFT
What's your biggest problem, Ron?
Maybe we can help.

The next step is to find someone to manufacture the dies. We will need dies to cut out the shape from sheets, and dies for stamping the image. Bill put a list of potential manufacturers up on the ShireSilver.org site - I just need to get off my butt and see if one of them will make them.

Once we have the dies, we can start building the example presses. You guys might be very helpful in that regard.

Ron Helwig

Quote from: Luke S on April 08, 2008, 05:56 PM NHFT
Now my next question is: are the folks in charge of this going to keep the main stockpile of Shire Silver hidden so the government can't steal it all like they did with the liberty dollar?

To follow up on Ryan's response, Shire Silver will be voluntary infrastructure. We are planning to provide marketing materials, designs and dies so you can make your own, a web site where people can find merchants they can spend silver with (and on what terms), and stuff like that.

The main idea that started Shire Silver is that while the FedGoons can shut down a centralized organization, they can't shut down dozens or hundreds of backyard/basement mints that aren't listed anywhere.