WoW! I got banned from FTL

[kola]

shit-stirrer?
cuz there aren't ANY of those here already.
Also,
i've been thinking about the troll moniker. maybe i am a troll on this & the ftl website,
but what about people here & there that are trolls in this state.
case in point= caleb
he's so involved in this site & the fsp, but yet he hangs his hat on the other coast. he has nothing to do with living/working/voting/paying taxes in N.H.
& there are others as well.
at least i'm a NH native.
seems to me the 'trolls-extrordinaire' ,are the ones that hang around these sites, but don't actually LIVE HERE

yur lucky i aint a moderator.

so for now,,addios...bon voyage to Iggyvile.   

kola

[K. Darien Freeheart]

you're not going to accomplish a thing.

I agree, which is why I don't drive without a license. On the flipside, I don't need to berate someone who is standing up for something important to them. I'm not going as far as saying that you shouldn't be able to say what you want, but keep in mind, calling Lauren stupid on a forum full of her friends isn't going to garner good will. In your words, "you're not going to accomplish a thing."

poking the bear at the statehouse level w/ politicians & plenty of publicity is going to get you a lot further toward your goal.

Do you not see that this wasn't LAUREN's goal? How I choose to advocate for liberty is my business. I'll agree with you fully that political activism is needed, but I'm of the opinion that any single form of activism without the others is pointless. Having a populace against taxes means nothing if you don't have people willing to refuse taxes. Likewise, refusing registration without a populace who supports it is pointless. It's only when Lauren and David and anyone else does the civil disobedience WHILE the political activists like the NH Liberty Alliance are at work does anything actually move.

Tearing down people who are working for liberty, while you profess that to be your goal is stupid. How do you expect to spread the message of liberty in ANY fashion by destroying fellow activist with friendly fire?

[AntonLee]

lindsey, mr. jay, blackie.......

All good people.  You actually sounded racist.

why?
because i shit-talked loiue farrakhan, sharpton & jackson?

personally I don't care if you use the N-word or not. . . the N-word gets thrown around a lot there. . . being banned for it is stupid to me, but it's not my property.  What does bother me is your love for the law.  If there is a law, and it enforces something that doesn't hurt anyone, is it worth it to follow this law

F Licenses, F Registration, F Seat Belts, and F the police.

they're not my laws.  I never agreed in writing to follow them.  If you would like to state that by the mere fact that I got a license when I was 17 (thus agreeing to follow these laws) then the state entered into a contract with a minor, breaking another one of their laws.  Either way, I win. 

as for OUR fence on the southern border, I'll leave that to you to watch. . . because I just don't care. . . because I'm not a racist and I like most mexican people.  Besides, the fence is nothing more than a large rust colored slice of swiss cheese.  There are even parts of it that you can drive cars through.

or like I posted over on the FTL forum: 
from http://www.choisser.com/border/borderfl.html


This is the southwestern corner of the United States. If this pesky ocean had not been encountered, this beautiful fence could have been made even longer.


This marble obelisk was made in New York, and it was brought around the horn by ship and erected here in 1851 to mark the southwestern corner of our nation and proclaim our friendship with Mexico. The large round slab on which it sits was clearly designed to allow one to walk around the monument. This would now not be easy, because of the fence, which was no doubt erected to further celebrate our friendship with Mexico. We all know that "good fences make good neighbors"!

[K. Darien Freeheart]

or like I posted over on the FTL forum:

That post inspired my first blog post in almost a month. Too bad it won't let me applaud you twice in an hour.

[Luke S]

Yeah, it's pretty obvious to me that we need to make that fence bigger, and put guards by the edge of the fence.

[Riddler]

hey anton....
here's one, in a long litany of reasons, to worry bout illegal immigrants;
(oh, and being concerned re: the soverignity,security and well being of U.S. (legal ) citizens of this country, does not a racist make):

Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas   The reporter is trying to reason with an illegal Mexican named Juan.

      This is good!  Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic.
 
      Don't be logical; don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think and it makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend.
 
         On the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2007.
 
    Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:
 
    Jim:  Juan, I see that you and thousands of other  protesters are marching in the streets to demonstrate for your cause.   Exactly what is your cause and what do you expect to accomplish by this protest?
 
     Juan : We want our rights.  We will show you how powerful we are.  We will bring Houston to its knees!
 
      Jim:  What rights?
 
       Juan:  Our right to live here ... legally.  Our right to get all the benefits you get.
 
       Jim:  When did you come to the United States?
 
       Juan:  Six years ago.  I crossed over the border at night with seven other friends.
 
        Jim: Why did you come?
 
    Juan:  For work.  I can earn as much in a month as I could in a year in Mexico .   Besides, I get free health care, our Mexican children can go to school free, if I lose my job I will get welfare, and someday I will have the Social Security nothing like that in Mexico !
 
      Jim: Did you feel badly about breaking our immigration laws when you came?
 
      Juan:  No!  Why should I feel bad?  I have a right to be here.  I have a right to amnesty.   I paid lots of money for my Social Security and Green Cards.
 
    Jim: How did you acquire those documents?
 
    Juan: From a guy in Dallas .  He charged me a lot of money too.
 
     Jim: Did you know that those documents w ere forged?
 
     Juan: It is of no matter.  I have a right to be here and work.
 
    Jim: What is the "right" you speak of?

   Juan:    The right of all aliens.  It is found in your Constitution.  Read it!
 
     Jim: I have read it, but I do not remember it saying anything about rights for aliens.
 
     Juan: It is in that part where it says that all men have alien rights, like the right to pursue happiness.  I wasn't happy in Mexico , so I came here.
 
     Jim: I think you are referring to the Declaration of Independence and that document speaks to unalienable rights not alien rights.
 
      ;Juan: Whatever.
 
     Jim: Since you are demanding to become an American citizen, why then are you carrying a Mexican Flag?
 
   Juan: Because I am Mexican.
 
   Jim: But you said you want to be given amnesty ... to become a U.S. citizen.
 
    Juan: No.  This is not what we want.  This is our country, a part of Mexico that you gringos st ole from us. We want it returned to its rightful owner.
 
    Jim:   Juan, you are standing in Texas .  After winning the war with Mexico , Texas became a Republic, and later Texans voted to join the USA .  It was not stolen from Mexico.
 
   Juan: That is a gringo lie.  Texas was stolen.  So were California, New Mexico and Arizona.  It is just like all the other stuff you gringos steal, like oil and babies.   You are a country of thieves.
 
   Jim: Babies?  You think we steal babies?
 
   Juan: Sure.  Like from Korea and Vietnam and China .   I see them all over the place.  You let all these foreigners in, but try to keep us Mexicans out.   How is this fair?
 
  Jim: So, you really don't want to become an American citizen then.
 
  Juan: I just want my rights!  Everyone has a right to live, work, and speak their native language wherever and whenever they please.   That's another thing we demand.  All signs and official documents should be in Spanish.  Teachers must teach in Spanish.  Soon, more people here in Houston will speak Spanish than English.  It is our right!
 
  Jim: If I were to cross over the border into Mexico without proper documentation, what rights would I have there?
 
    Juan:  None.  You would probably go to jail, but that's different.
 
     Jim: How is it different?  You said everyone has the right to live wherever they please.
 
   Juan: You gringos are a bunch of land grabbing thieves. Now you want Mexico too?   Me xico has its rights.  You gringos have no rights in Mexico.  Why would you want to go there anyway?  There is no free medical service, schools, or welfare there for foreigners such as you.   You cannot even own land in my country.  Stay in the country of your birth.
 
   Jim: I can see that there is no way that we can agree on this issue.  Thank you for your comments.
 
   Juan: Viva Mexico!


yeppers...call me a racist

[Landon Jeffery]

hey anton....
here's one, in a long litany of reasons, to worry bout illegal immigrants;
(oh, and being concerned re: the soverignity,security and well being of U.S. (legal ) citizens of this country, does not a racist make):

Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas   The reporter is trying to reason with an illegal Mexican named Juan.

   

Real interview?  Seems like anti immigration propaghanda.  What is the link to this interview?

[Luke S]

You've come close to being banned here. My finger was on the button.

In the FTL board, you said to shoot a young man, like a dog, who was suffering from a psychological condition.

You have also had malicious words for Lauren.

I for one think it's a tribute to how worthless you are as a human being that you were banned from the FTL forum.

Caleb, speaking of "closeness to being banned", is there any way to know how close to being banned you are at any given moment?

[Tom Sawyer]

You've come close to being banned here. My finger was on the button.

In the FTL board, you said to shoot a young man, like a dog, who was suffering from a psychological condition.

You have also had malicious words for Lauren.

I for one think it's a tribute to how worthless you are as a human being that you were banned from the FTL forum.

Caleb, speaking of "closeness to being banned", is there any way to know how close to being banned you are at any given moment?

If you reach -100 karma your system will receive a virus that will do immense damage.

I understand that Caleb can sometimes be persuaded to give you karma points for silver.

[Caleb]

Caleb, speaking of "closeness to being banned", is there any way to know how close to being banned you are at any given moment?

The only real admin is Kat. She bans people. She graced me with admin power so I could have power to give and take mega karma. Although I was tempted to ban bagalugutz, I wouldn't really actually do it. Kat will ban you for advocating violence or spamming or doing something fraudulent. Or if she gets fed up with you for some other major reason, but that is rare. As far as I know, you are a long, long way from that, so don't worry.

Your karma, however, is in the tank. Maybe you should ask yourself whether your positions are really as liberty oriented as you appear to think.

[Caleb]

shit-stirrer?
cuz there aren't ANY of those here already.
Also,
i've been thinking about the troll moniker. maybe i am a troll on this & the ftl website,
but what about people here & there that are trolls in this state.
case in point= caleb
he's so involved in this site & the fsp, but yet he hangs his hat on the other coast. he has nothing to do with living/working/voting/paying taxes in N.H.
& there are others as well.
at least i'm a NH native.
seems to me the 'trolls-extrordinaire' ,are the ones that hang around these sites, but don't actually LIVE HERE

You are a ridiculous person. I am not in the state, as you are aware, so how can I possibly be a troll in your state?

I am not involved much in the fsp. In the unlikely event that they reach their 20,000 goal, I will move back, per my commitment, but I haven't been to their site in probably 6 months. I come to this site because I have friends here.    You come to this site to harass my friends and spew vitriol at them. When venom isn't frothing from your mouth, you are busy advocating some new blessed restrictions on other people's liberty.

Why, exactly, do you come here? Who on this forum is "your kinda people"?

[Luke S]

You've come close to being banned here. My finger was on the button.

In the FTL board, you said to shoot a young man, like a dog, who was suffering from a psychological condition.

You have also had malicious words for Lauren.

I for one think it's a tribute to how worthless you are as a human being that you were banned from the FTL forum.

Caleb, speaking of "closeness to being banned", is there any way to know how close to being banned you are at any given moment?

If you reach -100 karma your system will receive a virus that will do immense damage.

I understand that Caleb can sometimes be persuaded to give you karma points for silver.

Tom Sawyer, I'm just curious, are you that kid I saw in the UN flag burning video that I saw?

[Luke S]

Caleb, speaking of "closeness to being banned", is there any way to know how close to being banned you are at any given moment?

The only real admin is Kat. She bans people. She graced me with admin power so I could have power to give and take mega karma. Although I was tempted to ban bagalugutz, I wouldn't really actually do it. Kat will ban you for advocating violence or spamming or doing something fraudulent. Or if she gets fed up with you for some other major reason, but that is rare. As far as I know, you are a long, long way from that, so don't worry.

Your karma, however, is in the tank. Maybe you should ask yourself whether your positions are really as liberty oriented as you appear to think.

Of course I'd never advocate violence (as far as I know -- according to some people on here's definition of advocating violence, somebody who thinks a marijuana user should be even so much as fined for breaking the law is advocating violence. I realize the connection, as behind every law there is a cop with a gun, but I still think the law is necessary.) But in the typical sense of the term: no, I'd never advocate violence.

As for my karma being in the tank, I have a good friend who lives here in Ohio who is a libertarian, and he and I agree on most issues. If you don't see me as liberty oriented, you probably wouldn't see him as liberty oriented either, even though he calls himself a libertarian. It's just that neither he nor I think that liberty-oriented = free-for-all.

[Caleb]

I know you were using "free for all" in a different way, but true freedom must be for all. Or else it isn't for you. Someday, the socialists in this country are going to come after your guns, and then your gun will be against the law. What will you do?

Hitler had laws. I'm sure you wouldn't have liked a lot of his laws. Just because something is written down on a piece of paper that got voted on by some rich white men, doesn't make it moral. So when they come for your guns, you can count on me, a pacifist, supporting you if you decide not to cooperate with them. The difference is that I can't count on your support if they come after my medicine. Oh, you might say, "well, I think it should be legal for you to use it under those conditions," but you still think I should comply with the law and cooperate with it, until the rich white men decide to change their minds and graciously permit me to do it. And if that time never comes, then I should just go along, like a good little Nazi.

Never mind that the CIA uses the drug war to bypass congressional funding so they can commit crimes without even congress knowing about it. Nah. That's no big deal. Why should that be my concern. The fact that the rest of the world hates ME, just because I was born in this landmass, and wants to commit terrorism against me, is largely because of the CIA, which has been enabled by the drug war. but in your mind it's much more important to keep me from getting a nice little high than it is to prevent murder, rape, torture, pillaging, genocide, and other crimes that have been funded through "white gold" narco-trafficking. If I might make a little book recommendation to you, read "Whiteout".

[KBCraig]

Here is a REAL INTERVIEW with an illegal Mexican at a protest march in Texas   The reporter is trying to reason with an illegal Mexican named Juan.

      This is good!  Below is a good example of a discussion with a master of circular logic.
 
      Don't be logical; don't respect the truth or your adversary, just say what you think and it makes a new case when the previous case gets too difficult to defend.
 
         On the streets of downtown Houston, May 1, 2007.
 
    Jim Moore reporting for a Houston TV station:

Gee, can't you at least try?

http://www.snopes.com/politics/immigration/interview.asp