My Request of those that do not live in the Keene Metro Area

[Russell Kanning]

It's grown and continues to grow. Changes like word filtering or other user-alienating actions hinders the growth. It does not it any way kill what anyone is trying to do, but if the forum degrades so much that someone new has to start a forum just so we can have serious conversation, we are that far set back.

Actually the forum has been about the same size for 2 or 3 years. Only so many people can be active here. There might be more and more lurkers, but who knows. I don't think that the greater NH liberty movement is set back by new forums starting. We are going to continue the forum the way it is into the foreseeable future.

[Russell Kanning]

That's already happened.

Twice, in fact.

and I liked it.
If this movement some day has 10,000 participants .... we won't all fit on a handful of forums ... or at least not this one.

[Russell Kanning]

That's already happened.

Twice, in fact.

Hey. It's like NHfree forums only different. Just all the same people.

That isn't anything I can fix. Some people choose to stay on this forum ... others have left permanently. I want this place to keep attracting the radical nonviolent revolutionaries. They will then break off into other groups with specialized interests or geographically connected.

[Russell Kanning]

However, I attribute a considerable part of my own growth toward understanding true liberty to conversations I had on forums; mostly this one.

That is a great part of this forum. I do not think we will hinder more of that by goofing around or helping show people what it looks like to see the word mafia in place of government.

I also want to repel debatatarians by messing with their sacred cows and making them leave in a huff and tell their peers to avoid this place.

[dalebert]

one of the interesting thing is watching you guys jump through hoops to avoid calling the mafia the mafia ... it is very revealing

Calling it the mafia is insulting to the mafia. The mafia has nothing on government (the AMOG kind) when it comes to committing great acts of evil and violence. The mafia is a lot less diabolical and deceptive and of course not nearly as pervasive. When I make the comparison, and I often do, I am careful to point out the differences.

[K. Darien Freeheart]

For me it's less of an "ethical" thing and more a simple annoyance. I like communication and dislike anything that hinders the flow if it. With word substitutions up, I've had to realize half way through an article that "something is wrong here" (specifically the watered down LP poll). The government is pretty akin to the mafia in my eyes, so I don't have a problem drawing that comparison (and I'd actually enjoy having that connection automatically drawn to "n00bs") but it is a distraction.

[SamIam]

I thought about this more after my FTL call and collected my thoughts on the topic. I really want us to have fun, and I see tremendous value in that. That was the point of calling FTL last night, simply to create fun and laughter. It was about rabbits for god sakes! What's funny about rabbits? The stew is pretty good, slow cooked overnight.

What bothers me the most is that this particular word substution is having fun at the expense of another. I don't enjoy participating in that kind of fun, especially when it's at the expense of the very people we need to reach the most! I think the way we act in here and amongst ourselves, carries with us, to some extent, into the world.

On some of the other substations, I have no idea what they mean, and the posts simply make no sense. So again, the message is lost. Can we be creative and create fun in other ways?

[FTL_Ian]

I agree with Dale.  The mafia would never kidnap hundreds of children.  Only go>ernments do that.

[MengerFan]

I've never heard of the mafia taking over half of anyone's income every year.

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I've never heard of the mafia taking over half of anyone's income every year.

So the government IS worse than the mafia!

[srqrebel]

What bothers me the most is that this particular word substution is having fun at the expense of another. I don't enjoy participating in that kind of fun, especially when it's at the expense of the very people we need to reach the most! I think the way we act in here and amongst ourselves, carries with us, to some extent, into the world. 

My thoughts exactly. Mucho kudos to you for pointing this out.

[Vitruvian]

I don't enjoy participating in that kind of fun, especially when it's at the expense of the very people we need to reach the most!

To which people are you referring?

[SamIam]

I don't enjoy participating in that kind of fun, especially when it's at the expense of the very people we need to reach the most!

To which people are you referring?

Thanks srqrebel.

Vitruvian - I'm talking about the bureaucrats primarily, and I think this would apply, to some degree,  to anyone with a belief in government

[J’raxis 270145]

Since we had to move our database ... we cut out the extra posts.

I have the SQL dump files, too: They're a little over 20 megabytes. What sort of horrible hosting company are you using where you can't squeeze in an additional 20M of data?

We never promised we would keep it all.

I remember asking you if you'd lock the boards only, not delete them, and you said you would. Then Kat announced they "had to" be deleted due to space concerns.

We don't purport that the karma thing does anything good.

No, but that's sort of what it's designed for.

I don't sell NH Free as a central repository for the whole movement. If we have false ads out there, we can change them.
Kat and I started this forum to hang out with friends. If other like minded folks join us .... that is great. If they complain later that we are not what they want .... they can leave the party. No real harm done.

True, I think it's primarily others like Denis and Dave Ridley who sold/sell "NH Free" as the central repository and meeting place for the whole movement here.

[David]

I think it is kinda ironic that I feel the need to ask these questions to the agorists and out of the system people. 
What means do you plan to use to achieve your ends?  Unbrindled hostility?
The Practical actions of agora is illegal.  Running an unlicensed home business is illegal, and usually afoul of zoning.  Do you expect to protest unfavorable gov't actions by doing repeat sign protests?  Even if it is an unpopular issue?  Do you expect to win over most of keene to liberty?  If so, how? 
Shane Maxfield seems to be a nice guy, but I have no illusions that if he is ordered to arrest me, that I will have a nice new set of stainless bracelets. 
I am surprised that this thread is 5 pages.  I thought my initial request was resonable.  Be angry about the infringement by the police, but focus it.  How do you expect to achieve anything with unfocused energy? 
Hostility alone will achieve nothing, except, surprise, more hostility.  I don't expect to convert many, or any police or beaurucrats.  But I am trying.  My sig line is a direct statement/question to them. 

I find it interesting that those who have said they try to deescalate tension when they have commited civ dis, then have other ideas on line.  I spend time trying to figure out what works.  I study what others have done that seems to work.  Dr. King, Gandi, the various social movements of today.  I am interested in real results.  So no, I don't spend time throwing myself under a bus. 

I live in Keene.  I don't live in grafton, or some other state.  Which means I cannot easily run away if things get 'hot'.  I intend to be involved in the events here.  If calling police pigs gets us closer to a liberty friendly area, then I am at a loss as to how.  Will talking to the police work?  Who knows.  Will it hurt?  Who knows.