The high cost of killing people.

[Vitruvian]

the "terrorists" who attacked us on 9/11

Al Quada attacked us

Al-Qaida did not attack "us."

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the "terrorists" who attacked us on 9/11

Al Quada attacked us

Al-Qaida did not attack "us."

I know you know what I meant.

[Vitruvian]

I know you know what I meant.

You're right.  Just jerking your chain.

[John Edward Mercier]

Actually if its not a war... its not unconstitutional.
Only Congress can declare war, but a military incursion may occur whenever the Executive office deems it to be in American interests. Precedent was set by President Thomas Jefferson during the Barbary Coast piracies.

It was un constitutional when he did it too.  He should have been imprisoned.

To echo Tom Sawyer.....: Amen brother.

George W. Bush should be tried for treason.

Treason is defined in the US Constitution as giving aid and comfort to the enemy...

Actually if its not a war... its not unconstitutional.
Only Congress can declare war, but a military incursion may occur whenever the Executive office deems it to be in American interests. Precedent was set by President Thomas Jefferson during the Barbary Coast piracies.

Simply because there is a precedent of doing the wrong thing, it does not make it right.  The US Supreme Court created the fact that our Constitutional rights can be "reasonably" regulated.  Exactly where in the Constitution did we, the people, agree to allow our rights to be "reasonably" regulated.  We did not.  Yet there is a precedent.  A bad one.

Congress has what constitutional power?  To declare war.

Once that war is declared the Commander-in-Chief then directs it.  Nowhere in our Constitution does it say that the Congress can "authorize the use of military force" without declaring war.  The politicians specifically did NOT want Congress to declare war so that protections would not be available to the people illegally detained in Gitmo.

Congress does not need to authorize the use of military force... if it did military law would not be possible.
War was declared on Iraq, just never completed its mission until the removal of Saddam.
The prisoners at Gitmo were not operating under the authority of a government and thus are not POWs by treaty.
War can only be declared against a recognized government.

the "terrorists" who attacked us on 9/11

Al Quada attacked us

Al-Qaida did not attack "us."

I know you know what I meant.

The Towers sustain many previous attacks...

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I know you know what I meant.

You're right.  Just jerking your chain.