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Car insurance with no govt DL or registration

Started by FTL_Ian, July 16, 2008, 08:35 AM NHFT

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Lloyd Danforth

I'm pretty sure you can't drive in Mass or CT legally without insurance.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: Free libertarian on July 25, 2008, 06:59 AM NHFT
How does NH maintain this status, surely there must have been attempts by the insurance companies to get mandatory insurance passed?

One of the Manchester aldermen keeps pushing for mandatory car insurance, too. He's at least in his seventies and has apparently been in four car accidents. So we should all be forced to buy insurance, y'know? ::)

John Edward Mercier

He's probably trying to guarantee that someone will sell him insurance...
And any good business is running scared.  :D

Giggan

I've been told by police-ish people that an asshole Mass. cop could write up an NH driver for not showing insurance papers at a stop, even if the driver's home state doesn't require it. The reciprocity seems to only be for the license. And usually the state forces anyone under 20 to get insurance if they get a moving violation, if they are to suspend one's license. They tried to do that to me, but I fought and won (take my license, not force insurance, though I think that would have come as a requirement after suspension).

I'm such a danger on the roads, rolling stop signs when there's no one around. Thank God a cop hiding on a side street spotted me and extorted $100. Without him, surely children would have been run over.

KBCraig

Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on July 25, 2008, 07:14 AM NHFT
I'm pretty sure you can't drive in Mass or CT legally without insurance.

Nor any of the other 49 states that require insurance.

When we were driving through Vermont on the way to PF, we saw an RV parked on the side of the highway. Even cruising by at 60+mph, we could clearly read the huge orange sticker police had applied to the driver's side window, that said "NO INSURANCE".

Porcupine_in_MA

Instead of the Scarlet Letter it's the Orange Sticker...

Pat McCotter

Quote from: KBCraig on July 27, 2008, 12:28 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on July 25, 2008, 07:14 AM NHFT
I'm pretty sure you can't drive in Mass or CT legally without insurance.

Nor any of the other 49 states that require insurance.



I missed something! Where did the other three states come from?

Mass, CT, "the other 49" and NH

:-\ ;)

raisismith

Do you guys and gals understand that the word "Drive" is a commerial term that implies that a "Person" (as defined by the VC) is on the highway behind the wheel of a "Motor-Vehicle" for commercial profit and/or gain?

In reading these posts, it seems to me that most are unaware of the difference between legal definitions compared to the common usage of words and terms- for example:

1. Driver
2. Motor-Vehicle
3. License
4. Registration
5. Person
6. Individual
7. Resident
8. U.S. citizen
9. Employee
10. Human-being
11. Tax-payer
12. Defendant...etc.

All of these words and terms have legal definitions given and provided by the Legislator. These definitions are in no way the same as we understand them to be when used amongst each other. So when pulled over on the side of the highway- when the officer asks you if whether or not you're one of those legal desiganations....and you agree that you are, then guess what- you've just subjugated yourself to their jurisdiction.


Never, and I mean NEVER walk into a foreign jurisdiction without first understanding how their words are legally defined, and also demanding to know from where came the definition. 


If you by pass this crucial step- it's no different than if you were in Court in a foreign country and not understanding why you kept losing your arguments.


So for those that are serious about truly understanding what it takes to start winning their traffic cases, please listen to the following audio files:

The lecturer's name is Richard James, McDonald-



http://section520.org/lawlectures.html





Here is the file ledger which details all of his files-



http://www.state-citizen.org/files/allfiles.txt





Once you've located a file that you're interested in, you then search for that file within the following folders-



http://www.state-citizen.org/files/



If you need more assistance, just ask!



myspace.com/raisismith





Late!


KBCraig

Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 27, 2008, 02:55 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on July 27, 2008, 12:28 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on July 25, 2008, 07:14 AM NHFT
I'm pretty sure you can't drive in Mass or CT legally without insurance.

Nor any of the other 49 states that require insurance.



I missed something! Where did the other three states come from?

Ask Obama. He thinks there are 57.


QuoteMass, CT, "the other 49" and NH

:-\ ;)
I haven't studied Mass. or CT, so forgive me if they also don't require insurance. If I'm not mistaken, one of the "reasons to move to NH" touted by the FSP is that it's the only state not requiring insurance to drive.

I'm unsure which of us is wrong, but I welcome correct information.

Pat McCotter

Quote from: KBCraig on July 28, 2008, 12:40 AM NHFT
Quote from: Pat McCotter on July 27, 2008, 02:55 AM NHFT
Quote from: KBCraig on July 27, 2008, 12:28 AM NHFT
Quote from: Lloyd Danforth on July 25, 2008, 07:14 AM NHFT
I'm pretty sure you can't drive in Mass or CT legally without insurance.

Nor any of the other 49 states that require insurance.



I missed something! Where did the other three states come from?

Ask Obama. He thinks there are 57.


QuoteMass, CT, "the other 49" and NH

:-\ ;)
I haven't studied Mass. or CT, so forgive me if they also don't require insurance. If I'm not mistaken, one of the "reasons to move to NH" touted by the FSP is that it's the only state not requiring insurance to drive.

I'm unsure which of us is wrong, but I welcome correct information.


You do know, Kevin, that it is not fun making fun of somebody's post when they don't understand that is what I was doing, right?

You quoted a post that mentioned MA and CT. NH was assumed in the post because it doesn't require insurance. You then stated "Nor any of the other 49 states". In my brain I added that up to 52 states. :-[

Lloyd Danforth


John Edward Mercier

Quote from: raisismith on July 28, 2008, 12:36 AM NHFT
Do you guys and gals understand that the word "Drive" is a commerial term that implies that a "Person" (as defined by the VC) is on the highway behind the wheel of a "Motor-Vehicle" for commercial profit and/or gain?

In reading these posts, it seems to me that most are unaware of the difference between legal definitions compared to the common usage of words and terms- for example:

1. Driver
2. Motor-Vehicle
3. License
4. Registration
5. Person
6. Individual
7. Resident
8. U.S. citizen
9. Employee
10. Human-being
11. Tax-payer
12. Defendant...etc.

All of these words and terms have legal definitions given and provided by the Legislator. These definitions are in no way the same as we understand them to be when used amongst each other. So when pulled over on the side of the highway- when the officer asks you if whether or not you're one of those legal desiganations....and you agree that you are, then guess what- you've just subjugated yourself to their jurisdiction.


Never, and I mean NEVER walk into a foreign jurisdiction without first understanding how their words are legally defined, and also demanding to know from where came the definition. 


If you by pass this crucial step- it's no different than if you were in Court in a foreign country and not understanding why you kept losing your arguments.


So for those that are serious about truly understanding what it takes to start winning their traffic cases, please listen to the following audio files:

The lecturer's name is Richard James, McDonald-



http://section520.org/lawlectures.html





Here is the file ledger which details all of his files-



http://www.state-citizen.org/files/allfiles.txt





Once you've located a file that you're interested in, you then search for that file within the following folders-



http://www.state-citizen.org/files/



If you need more assistance, just ask!



myspace.com/raisismith





Late!


Correct. But the legal definition is 'operator' of the 'motorized vehicle'.

Josh

Maine has insurance requirements, but in the 25 years I've lived here, I'm not aware of anyone from NH being ticketed for failure to provide proof of insurance. Maybe people from NH just don't get stopped in Maine..... but I doubt it ;)
I've been in 3 accidents total, none in the last 7 years. In all 3 accidents, the cost of repairing the damage myself was less than the cost of the insurance premiums. The premiums obviously went up, making the insurance scam seem that much less beneficial to me.

K. Darien Freeheart

Quote from: 'raisismith'Never, and I mean NEVER walk into a foreign jurisdiction without first understanding how their words are legally defined, and also demanding to know from where came the definition.

If my actions aren't harming someone, I couldn't care less how they define things or where they come up with their definitions.

J’raxis 270145

Quote from: Kevin Dean on July 29, 2008, 08:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: 'raisismith'Never, and I mean NEVER walk into a foreign jurisdiction without first understanding how their words are legally defined, and also demanding to know from where came the definition.

If my actions aren't harming someone, I couldn't care less how they define things or where they come up with their definitions.

Good in theory, bad idea in practice. Drive to Massachusetts with a single spent cartridge in your car, for example, and you're looking at a mandatory minimum one year prison sentence.