Concealed Carry License

[Lex]

Under what circumstances are you required to show your concealed carry license if asked?

Just wondering.

[doobie]

159:6-a Confidentiality of Licenses. – Notwithstanding the provisions of RSA 91-A:4 or any other provision of law to the contrary, all papers and records, including applications, pertaining to the issuance of licenses pursuant to RSA 159:6 and all licenses issued pursuant to said section are subject to inspection only by law enforcement officials of the state or any political subdivision thereof or of the federal government while in the performance of official duties or upon written consent, for good cause shown, of the superior court in the county where said license was issued.

That is the statute.

[Pat McCotter]

159:6-a Confidentiality of Licenses. – Notwithstanding the provisions of RSA 91-A:4 or any other provision of law to the contrary, all papers and records, including applications, pertaining to the issuance of licenses pursuant to RSA 159:6 and all licenses issued pursuant to said section are subject to inspection only by law enforcement officials of the state or any political subdivision thereof or of the federal government while in the performance of official duties or upon written consent, for good cause shown, of the superior court in the county where said license was issued.

That is the statute.

That is used when LEO's want to see the records at the place of issuance, not when wanting to see the license carried by the license holder.

I do not know when you would be required to show your license, but attorney Penny Dean was stopped by a state trooper while out walking (it should be on www.gonh.org but they are down right now) and this is a letter she wrote to the troop commander.
http://thepriceofliberty.org/05/08/19/guest_penny.htm

Then there is this video where the trooper's son confronts her at a speaking engagement.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bykwrOmBM9Q

[Puke]

How interesting. It's nice to se that people in NH do stand up to the cops sometimes.
It's the people who resist the tyranny that help freedom, not the ones that obey everything.

It's so common to hear people say that a person like Ms. Dean should have just kept her mouth shut and obeyed. 

[doobie]

My question is...how does one retain legal possession of their firearm if they are detained?  So far I've been lucky and they just wanted to know where it was and to keep my hands away from it...

[Luke S]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bykwrOmBM9Q

I had something similar to this happen to me once. I am also a diehard walker and runner like this lady is, and I currently run about 40 miles a week or more most weeks, and one day a few months ago I was out running with an MP3 player in my ears, and I saw a police car pull up beside me with flashing lights on and siren on, so I stopped, and then the policeman told me to stop, and I said "Why did you ask me to stop?" Well first he asked me what I was doing. I said "running". And then he said "do you run this way often?" And I said "yes". He then said that he had received a complaint that I was looking into other people's yards. Of course this was totally untrue, so I said "Sir, I don't know what to say, I wasn't looking into anybody's yard." So then he asked me my name and where I lived, and I gave it to him, but he didn't ask me for my ID. So at the end, he said "Well, we had received a complaint that you were looking into people's yards, but you don't seem like the kind of person who would do that, so we're just going to have you carry on." So I said "Thank you sir.", and that was the end of that.

But in my case here where I live in Michigan, it's not that the police are mean and out to make everything a police state. It's that I live in the snooty part of town where people often call the police on each other for practically no reason at all. But at least the police themselves know this to be the case (most of the time at least), and don't give people tickets and stuff for every little alleged thing that they are called for.

[Porcupine_in_MA]

it's not that the police are mean and out to make everything a police state.

The police aren't "out to make everything a police state" it ends up a police state because you have generations of authoritarianism taught to the public through government child indoctrination centers, so you have a worship of government, especially the police and armed forces. Then the police, politicians and bureaucrats are under the impression that they rule you and when you behave in a way that goes against that belief, then they get mean.

[PowerPenguin]

I'm just going to concealed carry w/out asking for permission who's with me?

[K. Darien Freeheart]

I'm just going to concealed carry w/out asking for permission who's with me?

Sounds like a good first step towards that whole "Felon in possession" civil disobedience plan...

[Lex]

I'm not sure you would find a lot of sympathizers among the general public. I mean, people get stopped for LEGALLY open carrying. What battle would you be winning by illegally conceal carrying that you can't win by legally open carrying? I think as far as public awareness is concerned you would reach more people by legally open carrying.

I guess my point is: Does the risk outweigh the benefit? In this case, I think so.

[J’raxis 270145]

I'm just going to concealed carry w/out asking for permission who's with me?

Sounds like a good first step towards that whole "Felon in possession" civil disobedience plan...

Specifically:—

159:4 Carrying Without License. – No person shall carry a loaded pistol or revolver in any vehicle or concealed upon his person, except in his dwelling, house or place of business, without a valid license therefor as hereinafter provided. A loaded pistol or revolver shall include any pistol or revolver with a magazine, cylinder, chamber or clip in which there are loaded cartridges. Whoever violates the provisions of this section shall, for the first such offense, be guilty of a misdemeanor. For the second and for each subsequent violation of the provisions of this section, such person shall be guilty of a class B felony, provided such second or subsequent violation has occurred within 7 years of the previous conviction.

[PowerPenguin]

Maybe I'll have it unloaded and have the ammo in a clip in another pocket. 8-)

[J’raxis 270145]

Maybe I'll have it unloaded and have the ammo in a clip in another pocket. 8-)

A lot of people who open carry do that when they get in a car, because it's then considered "concealed."

[rmodel65]

maybe this will give you some info on guns and the pc and ras taken from a letter of an encounter i had with police http://www.georgiacarry.com/county/glynn_carry/


On the issue of whether a firearm, by itself, justifies detaining and investigating a person, there
are many federal cases addressing the issue. United States v. Ubiles, 224 F.3d 213 (3d Cir.
2000) declares that possession of a firearm in public, with no other circumstances present, does
not justify a stop. "For all the officers knew, even assuming the reliability of the tip that Ubiles
possessed a gun, Ubiles was . . . lawfully exercising his right . . . to possess a gun in public." See
also United States v. Dudley, 854 F. Supp. 570 (S.D.Ind. 1994), in which the court declared that
a report of persons with guns did not justify an investigative stop. "In short, the Government
failed to establish . . . that some reasonable suspicion of criminal activity, based on articulable
facts, justified this seizure. And, if the stop itself is unlawful, neither Terry nor Michigan v.
Long authorize the police to search the suspects or the suspect's vehicle for weapons, even if the
officers reasonably fear for their safety."
Likewise, the U.S. Supreme Court in Florida v. J.L., 529 U.S. 266 (2000), declared that there is
no "gun exception" to the Fourth Amendment

[Hubbard]

This kid is a retard. Much like his father.