Victims of drug war resist the drug war

[David]

I have long tried to think of different ways to resist the drug war.  Lately, I have been encouraging a few friends to resist the enforcement a bit more effectively.  One of my agendas if I had been arrested for the illegal hotdogging, was to try to recruit people to resist in a more focused manner. 

It may not be what we think of as traditional civ dis, but every time someone lights up a doobie, they are commiting civ dis.  They are not hurting anyone, and should be seen as the nonviolent resisters that they are.  Further, we can increase our overall effectiveness, if we can enlarge the pool of activists that are focused on pushing back against the state.  Massive numbers of people are arrested for drug and substance 'crimes', the only thing missing for them to become activists, is a desire to push back the state, and focus. 

I have been encouraging my friends to not plead guilty, and to force them to try them.  Not plea bargain.  If they have been arrested and believe they may have lost their jobs, to not bail out.  And to never if possible, pay the fines. 

Rather than grovel to the judge to try to get his sympathy or less jail time, we need to shout out to the world that there is nothing wrong with self medicating, and that they can lay off our backs. 

[FTL_Ian]

Open Marijuana Litter Pickup anyone?

http://forum.freekeene.com/index.php?topic=132.0

[Dave Ridley]

sounds interesting

sure to generate a lot of coverage

[Giggan]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

[J’raxis 270145]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

Paul Craig Roberts in The tyranny of good intentions claims it's 19/20.

[Sam A. Robrin]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

So what's needed is obviously a dope-smokers' union.  Like that'll ever happen.

[David]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

So what's needed is obviously a dope-smokers' union.  Like that'll ever happen.

That is the idea.     It also has to be decentralized.  It may be 'legal' to excersize your rights to trial, but the gov't will quickly realize what is going on and they will try to stop it. 

The drug war causes lots of victims, they are natural allies of the freedom movement, even if they are flaming socialists, or worse.  If they have a desire to pushback against a gov't intent on violating their freedom of self medication, they can be helpful. 

[Sam A. Robrin]

The drug war causes lots of victims, they are natural allies of the freedom movement, even if they are flaming socialists, or worse.  If they have a desire to pushback against a gov't intent on violating their freedom of self medication, they can be helpful. 

My pessimistic pronouncement was more over the fact that most smokers are too stoned out too much of the time to ever get much of anything done.  As a former Haight-Ashbury hippie, I can attest that those Freak Brothers cartoons are only slightly exaggerated . . . !

[Giggan]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

Paul Craig Roberts in The tyranny of good intentions claims it's 19/20.

It could even be that high, the 9/10ths comes from my CJ textbook.

[bouncer]

Could always go to Nashua and shoot up on the corner with the heroin addicts 

[firecracker joe]

a friend of mine got arressted for some driving offense the other night and after they brought him to jail they found about 40 grams of pot in the back seat of the cop car the cops searched him before they put him in the car and found nothing on him. I will try to talk him into taking it to court. it was in merrimack county

[David]

I'm also trying to talk a friend into challenging a pot charge.  He is definately close, but prolly not ready.  I don't believe it is appropriate to pressure others into putting their necks on the line to challenge the state, unless they are ready to do so.  Then I will support them the best that I can.   
Actually, to pressure someone may backfire, as they will blame the activists that pressured him/her. 

[SpeedPhreak]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

Ive thought about trying to get people to do this with traffic court.  When ever I go there are 100+ people in their, sometimes people are standing outside the court room w/the door open to hear their name.

Great strategy for drugs, traffic, prostitution, biz licensing, etc....

[Giggan]

If everyone demanded a trial, the system would collapse. It can barely manage itself now, and 9/10ths of cases plead out.

Ive thought about trying to get people to do this with traffic court.  When ever I go there are 100+ people in their, sometimes people are standing outside the court room w/the door open to hear their name.

Great strategy for drugs, traffic, prostitution, biz licensing, etc....

And you know for every one of those who shows up in court, there's 10 (minimum) who have already paid!

[firecracker joe]

speaking as a victim of the drug war it is easy to say i will bring it to trial but when you have 2 class a felonies and your lawyer says your looking at 2  7.5-15 years to run concurrent if you dont take their plea deal of 1.5-6 in  nhsp  you tend to want to just get it over with  I was arrested for 10 pot plants and 1.5 grams of blow this was in the early 90's when the drug war was top priority back then we were the terrorists and that is the way the system works and i still did 3 years for being problematic in the joint , i just cant keep my mouth shut  plus being a racketteer which i dont regret. but that is why they have such high numbers so they can come down and make us law breakers feel like were getting a good deal. its alittle different than not registering your car. have you seen your brain on drugs (  its not pretty)