Posse Comitatus is dead

[Bald Eagle]

Looks like it's 1944 again, kids.

http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

http://heidilore.wordpress.com/2008/09/26/october-1st-us-troops-training-for-domestic-unrest/

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

Beginning on October 1, the First Brigade Combat Team of the Third Division will be placed under the command of US Army North, the Army's component of the Pentagon's Northern Command (NorthCom), which was created in the wake of the September 11, 2001 terrorist attacks with the stated mission of defending the US "homeland" and aiding federal, state and local authorities.


The unit—known as the "Raiders"—is among the Army's most "blooded." It has spent nearly three out of the last five years deployed in Iraq, leading the assault on Baghdad in 2003 and carrying out house-to-house combat in the suppression of resistance in the city of Ramadi. It was the first brigade combat team to be sent to Iraq three times.

"We are at war with a global extremist network that is not going away," Casey told the soldiers. "I hope we don't have to use it, but we need the capability."

"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control," the paper reports. It quotes the unit's commander, Col. Robert Cloutier, as saying that the 1st BCT's soldiers are being trained in the use of "the first ever nonlethal package the Army has fielded." The weapons, the paper reported, are "designed to subdue unruly or dangerous individuals without killing them." The equipment includes beanbag bullets, shields and batons and equipment for erecting roadblocks.

It appears that as part of the training for deployment within the US, the soldiers have been ordered to test some of this non-lethal equipment on each other.

"I was the first guy in the brigade to get Tasered," Cloutier told the Army Times. He described the effects of the electroshock weapon as "your worst muscle cramp ever—times 10 throughout your whole body."

The colonel's remark suggests that, in preparation for their "homefront" duties, rank-and-file troops are also being routinely Tasered. The brutalizing effect and intent of such a macabre training exercise is to inure troops against sympathy for the pain and suffering they may be called upon to inflict on the civilian population using these same "non-lethal" weapons.

According to military officials quoted by the Army Times, the deployment of regular Army troops in the US begun with the First Brigade Combat Team is to become permanent, with different units rotated into the assignment on an annual basis.

In an online interview with reporters earlier this month, NorthCom officers were asked about the implications of the new deployment for the Posse Comitatus Act, the 230-year-old legal statute that bars the use of US military forces for law enforcement purposes within the US itself.

Col. Lou Volger, NorthCom's chief of future operations, tried to downplay any enforcement role, but added, "We will integrate with law enforcement to understand the situation and make sure we're aware of any threats."

Volger acknowledged the obvious, that the Brigade Combat Team is a military force, while attempting to dismiss the likelihood that it would play any military role. It "has forces for security," he said, "but that's really—they call them security forces, but that's really just to establish our own footprint and make sure that we can operate and run our own bases."


God help us all.

[Raineyrocks]

This is very disturbing!   Are there any suggestions of what people can do?    Oh yeah, thanks for posting this too! 

[KBCraig]

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

As I replied over on the other, other forum:

That's simply not true. Active duty Army units have been used multiple times to quell "unrest" throughout American history. There was the pre-Constitution Shay's Rebellion, and the Whiskey Rebellion was the first to be suppressed by the military after ratification.

There have been multiple instances of active duty military forces putting down rebellion and armed uprisings, let alone "civil unrest". The Ludlow Massacre in Colorado was responded to by the 11th U.S. Cavalry, the regiment I served in in Germany. Don't forget the "civil unrest" of the Bonus Army, or Little Rock desgregation.

[Raineyrocks]

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

As I replied over on the other, other forum:

That's simply not true. Active duty Army units have been used multiple times to quell "unrest" throughout American history. There was the pre-Constitution Shay's Rebellion, and the Whiskey Rebellion was the first to be suppressed by the military after ratification.

There have been multiple instances of active duty military forces putting down rebellion and armed uprisings, let alone "civil unrest". The Ludlow Massacre in Colorado was responded to by the 11th U.S. Cavalry, the regiment I served in in Germany. Don't forget the "civil unrest" of the Bonus Army, or Little Rock desgregation.

Very interesting and it makes me feel a little better, thanks KB !     How did you like Germany?

[KBCraig]

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

As I replied over on the other, other forum:

That's simply not true. Active duty Army units have been used multiple times to quell "unrest" throughout American history. There was the pre-Constitution Shay's Rebellion, and the Whiskey Rebellion was the first to be suppressed by the military after ratification.

There have been multiple instances of active duty military forces putting down rebellion and armed uprisings, let alone "civil unrest". The Ludlow Massacre in Colorado was responded to by the 11th U.S. Cavalry, the regiment I served in in Germany. Don't forget the "civil unrest" of the Bonus Army, or Little Rock desgregation.

Very interesting and it makes me feel a little better, thanks KB ! 

Well, I didn't mean to make anyone feel better. It's unacceptable to use a standing army to oppress dissent and protest (or anything else except invasion by a foreign military). I just wanted to point out that it's not unprecedented.

How did you like Germany?

I loved the scenery and the history (and the beer!), but I could never live happily in such a strictly regulated society.

I spoke the language and loved the people, but I understand why the French (and the rest of Europe) are still afraid of them.

[Tom Sawyer]

Army Times added this

Correction:
A non-lethal crowd control package fielded to 1st Brigade Combat Team, 3rd Infantry Division, described in the original version of this story, is intended for use on deployments to the war zone, not in the U.S., as previously stated.

The take I have on this is because of the foriegn deployment of National Guard forces now we have regular Army filling the role.

[Dave Ridley]

so...what can you as an individual do about this?

one thought might be demonstrations outside new hampshire's most active recruiting office

now we can hold signs for the incoming 17 year olds that will have a different impact from the ones we could honestly hold before:

"army to fight americans"

[John Edward Mercier]

Sea Smurfs    Take a while to live that one down...

www.armytimes.com/news/2008/09/army_homeland_090708w/

[KBCraig]

Sea Smurfs    Take a while to live that one down...

"Papa Smurf, this is Baby Smurf, how copy, over?"

[Raineyrocks]

For the first time ever, the US military is deploying an active duty regular Army combat unit for full-time use inside the United States to deal with emergencies, including potential civil unrest.

As I replied over on the other, other forum:

That's simply not true. Active duty Army units have been used multiple times to quell "unrest" throughout American history. There was the pre-Constitution Shay's Rebellion, and the Whiskey Rebellion was the first to be suppressed by the military after ratification.

There have been multiple instances of active duty military forces putting down rebellion and armed uprisings, let alone "civil unrest". The Ludlow Massacre in Colorado was responded to by the 11th U.S. Cavalry, the regiment I served in in Germany. Don't forget the "civil unrest" of the Bonus Army, or Little Rock desgregation.

Very interesting and it makes me feel a little better, thanks KB ! 

Well, I didn't mean to make anyone feel better. It's unacceptable to use a standing army to oppress dissent and protest (or anything else except invasion by a foreign military). I just wanted to point out that it's not unprecedented.

Oh, I thought this was a good thing that it wasn't unusual but then I read this article today:

"3rd Infantry's 1st BCT trains for a new dwell-time mission. Helping 'people at home' may become a permanent part of the active Army
By Gina Cavallaro - Staff writer
Posted : Monday Sep 8, 2008 6:15:06 EDT
The 3rd Infantry Division's 1st Brigade Combat Team has spent 35 of the last 60 months in Iraq patrolling in full battle rattle, helping restore essential services and escorting supply convoys.

Now they're training for the same mission — with a twist — at home."

"Beginning Oct. 1 for 12 months, the 1st BCT will be under the day-to-day control of U.S. Army North, the Army service component of Northern Command, as an on-call federal response force for natural or manmade emergencies and disasters, including terrorist attacks."

"This new mission marks the first time an active unit has been given a dedicated assignment to NorthCom, a joint command established in 2002 to provide command and control for federal homeland defense efforts and coordinate defense support of civil authorities.

After 1st BCT finishes its dwell-time mission, expectations are that another, as yet unnamed, active-duty brigade will take over and that the mission will be a permanent one."

"Right now, the response force requirement will be an enduring mission. How the [Defense Department] chooses to source that and whether or not they continue to assign them to NorthCom, that could change in the future," said Army Col. Louis Vogler, chief of NorthCom future operations."Now, the plan is to assign a force every year."

"They may be called upon to help with civil unrest and crowd control or to deal with potentially horrific scenarios such as massive poisoning and chaos in response to a chemical, biological, radiological, nuclear or high-yield explosive, or CBRNE, attack."

"The active Army's new dwell-time mission is part of a NorthCom and DOD response package.

Active-duty soldiers will be part of a force that includes elements from other military branches and dedicated National Guard Weapons of Mass Destruction-Civil Support Teams.

A final mission rehearsal exercise is scheduled for mid-September at Fort Stewart and will be run by Joint Task Force Civil Support, a unit based out of Fort Monroe, Va., that will coordinate and evaluate the interservice event.

In addition to 1st BCT, other Army units will take part in the two-week training exercise, including elements of the 1st Medical Brigade out of Fort Hood, Texas, and the 82nd Combat Aviation Brigade from Fort Bragg, N.C.

There also will be Air Force engineer and medical units, the Marine Corps Chemical, Biological Initial Reaction Force, a Navy weather team and members of the Defense Logistics Agency and the Defense Threat Reduction Agency."

"I don't know what America's overall plan is — I just know that 24 hours a day, seven days a week, there are soldiers, sailors, airmen and Marines that are standing by to come and help if they're called," Cloutier said."It makes me feel good as an American to know that my country has dedicated a force to come in and help the people at home."


MARTIAL LAW OCT. 1 , 2008 - WHAT WILL YOU DO ???



it is in place but your not supposed to know about it until the next false flag op. (end of article and I don't know the credibility of it)
I can't give a link for the above article  however these 2 links went dead almost immediately after being posted.
Brigade homeland tours start Oct. 1
http://www.armytimes.com/news/2008/0...eland_090708w/    and    http://www.military.com/cs/Satellite...ws%2FnwsLayout

How did you like Germany?

I loved the scenery and the history (and the beer!), but I could never live happily in such a strictly regulated society.

I spoke the language and loved the people, but I understand why the French (and the rest of Europe) are still afraid of them.

Wow, that's neat, the beer that's funny!     I didn't know Germany was strictly regulated, how?   I thought people were allowed to smoke pot in coffee shops and stuff or is that somewhere else?   I  have been wanting to learn German, Italian, Spanish, and Chinese for so long now.   I have all of the learning materials I just have a difficult time paying attention long enough to learn them.    I do know swear words in Spanish though. 

[Sam A. Robrin]

"All watched over by Marines of loving grace."

[KBCraig]

I didn't know Germany was strictly regulated, how?   I thought people were allowed to smoke pot in coffee shops and stuff or is that somewhere else?

That's the Netherlands (Holland). Especially Amsterdam.

Germany has laws and regulations for everything. Can you imagine Americans putting signs up inside their garages warning that "Smoking is forbidden by law"? Germans do. If you think Mass. and CT blue laws are bad, you should try to go shopping in Germany on a Sunday. Or after 6 pm on a weekday. Or after noon on Saturday (except for "long Saturday" one day a month, when stores are open until 4). It's illegal to mow your yard or wash your car on Sunday. Yard/tag sales are illegal. If you don't maintain auto insurance, the insurance company, not the police, comes to your house and takes the plates off your car until you pay. Cutting down a tree is a crime, even on your own property, without permission of the district forester, plus your neighbors can sue you for it.

Some of these things may have changed in the last 19 years, but undoubtedly there are new and worse things to take their place.

[Raineyrocks]

I didn't know Germany was strictly regulated, how?   I thought people were allowed to smoke pot in coffee shops and stuff or is that somewhere else?

That's the Netherlands (Holland). Especially Amsterdam.

Germany has laws and regulations for everything. Can you imagine Americans putting signs up inside their garages warning that "Smoking is forbidden by law"? Germans do. If you think Mass. and CT blue laws are bad, you should try to go shopping in Germany on a Sunday. Or after 6 pm on a weekday. Or after noon on Saturday (except for "long Saturday" one day a month, when stores are open until 4). It's illegal to mow your yard or wash your car on Sunday. Yard/tag sales are illegal. If you don't maintain auto insurance, the insurance company, not the police, comes to your house and takes the plates off your car until you pay. Cutting down a tree is a crime, even on your own property, without permission of the district forester, plus your neighbors can sue you for it.

Some of these things may have changed in the last 19 years, but undoubtedly there are new and worse things to take their place.

Oh my gosh!  That is pretty bad!