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Third North American Secession Convention

Started by Friday, October 07, 2008, 07:51 PM NHFT

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Friday

Quote from: AnarchoMartyr on October 07, 2008, 10:42 PM NHFT
I'm going as the Bureaucrash rep.
I wasn't aware that Bureaucrash is a secessionist organization; is it?

Fluff and Stuff


dalebert


Friday

I am looking forward to this event.   :)  Two years ago, I found the idea of secession wacky and vaguely creepy.  Now, I find it completely reasonable and just (although still frought with deadly peril).  What a long, strange trip it's been since I moved to New Hampshire.   :)

Pat K


Russell Kanning

to me ... this is what our movement is all about ... getting people to see a whole new way of looking at life. :)

Someone was telling me they thought Grafton should secede. It sounded good to me. :)

I remember the good ol days when Sandy thought Caleb and I were crazy, talking about secession. Now she knows we are both crazy ... but not about secession.

Friday

Quote from: Pat K on November 13, 2008, 08:05 PM NHFT
Did someone say deadly peril ?
Holy crap!!  I never realized that the "K" in Pat K stands for "deadly peril"!   :icon_pirat:

error

For those of you coming out here, some of us will meet at Murphy's from 5-9 pm Friday night, because we believe $2 beers are much better than $5 beers. Certain secessionists should be invited to leave the hotel and come down the street to join us. :)

dalebert

Today's comic will be related to the convention so please help me get the word out about it. I'll be attending as well, though maybe not until tomorrow. I'm thinking of printing a few of today's comics to hand out. Maybe they'll make their rounds.

joeyforpresident

Excuse me for inquiring, but was the conference in Manchester due to underlying attempts (organized or not) to have FSP folks try to get NH to secede? Or was it just a random place?


BillKauffman

It was chosen for a number of reasons. Primarily because they were announcing the formation of a trans-national independence movement called "Novacadia" with a representative from Nova Scotia which would include VT, NH, ME, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island.

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/atlantica

This conference was spearheaded by former NH Democratic Senator Burt Cohen who did a radio show with Sebastian Ronin from the Novacadia Network.

http://novacadia.org/

There was no "official" representative from the FSP in attendance although Jason Sorens, the FSP founder, appeared as an "observer" as did many other FSP and NH Underground folks.


Friday

Quote from: BillKauffman on November 30, 2008, 09:01 PM NHFT
It was chosen for a number of reasons. Primarily because they were announcing the formation of a trans-national independence movement called "Novacadia" with a representative from Nova Scotia which would include VT, NH, ME, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island.

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/atlantica

This conference was spearheaded by former NH Democratic Senator Burt Cohen who did a radio show with Sebastian Ronin from the Novacadia Network.

http://novacadia.org/

There was no "official" representative from the FSP in attendance although Jason Sorens, the FSP founder, appeared as an "observer" as did many other FSP and NH Underground folks.


Odd... I was there from ~ 8:40AM - 4:30PM, and never saw Jason Sorens there.  A member of the FSP gave a presentation.  Were we attending the same convention?

BillKauffman

Quote from: Friday on November 30, 2008, 09:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on November 30, 2008, 09:01 PM NHFT
It was chosen for a number of reasons. Primarily because they were announcing the formation of a trans-national independence movement called "Novacadia" with a representative from Nova Scotia which would include VT, NH, ME, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island.

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/atlantica

This conference was spearheaded by former NH Democratic Senator Burt Cohen who did a radio show with Sebastian Ronin from the Novacadia Network.

http://novacadia.org/

There was no "official" representative from the FSP in attendance although Jason Sorens, the FSP founder, appeared as an "observer" as did many other FSP and NH Underground folks.


Odd... I was there from ~ 8:40AM - 4:30PM, and never saw Jason Sorens there.  A member of the FSP gave a presentation.  Were we attending the same convention?

The presenter wasn't an official representative of the FSP like the other delegates who were in attendance but simply an observer. Jason was at the social on Friday night and attended the conference for maybe an hour or so in the morning. He sat in the back near the door for a quick entry and exit. I sat behind you but left around 10am or so to go see the Warhol exhibit at the Currier. Ate lunch at Murphy's, a number of FSP folks were there too, and attended the afternoon session.

Friday

Quote from: BillKauffman on November 30, 2008, 09:18 PM NHFT
Quote from: Friday on November 30, 2008, 09:10 PM NHFT
Quote from: BillKauffman on November 30, 2008, 09:01 PM NHFT
It was chosen for a number of reasons. Primarily because they were announcing the formation of a trans-national independence movement called "Novacadia" with a representative from Nova Scotia which would include VT, NH, ME, New Brunswick, Nova Scotia, Prince Edward Island.

http://www.vermontrepublic.org/atlantica

This conference was spearheaded by former NH Democratic Senator Burt Cohen who did a radio show with Sebastian Ronin from the Novacadia Network.

http://novacadia.org/

There was no "official" representative from the FSP in attendance although Jason Sorens, the FSP founder, appeared as an "observer" as did many other FSP and NH Underground folks.


Odd... I was there from ~ 8:40AM - 4:30PM, and never saw Jason Sorens there.  A member of the FSP gave a presentation.  Were we attending the same convention?

The presenter wasn't an official representative of the FSP like the other delegates who were in attendance but simply an observer. Jason was at the social on Friday night and attended the conference for maybe an hour or so in the morning. He sat in the back near the door for a quick entry and exit. I sat behind you but left around 10am or so to go see the Warhol exhibit at the Currier. Ate lunch at Murphy's, a number of FSP folks were there too, and attended the afternoon session.
Hmmm, I guess I don't know you; introduce yourself next time.  :)  I ate at the pub in the hotel; there were some other convention attendees eating there.

BillKauffman

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bill_Kauffman

Political beliefs

Although he is known as a paleoconservative, his politics remain difficult to categorize, as he holds strong libertarian leanings with culturally conservative and isolationist inclinations. He is a critic of development, frequently writes approvingly of distributism and agrarianism, and is strongly anti-corporate. Kauffman has described his politics as "a blend of Catholic Worker, Old Right libertarian, Yorker transcendentalist, and delirious localist." He has also described himself as a "Jeffersonian," an "anarchist," a "cheerful enemy of the state," a "reactionary Friend of the Library," and a "peace-loving football fan." Although he remains a registered Democrat, he rarely supports their candidates or their platform and has frequently voted Green since the collapse of the Reform Party in 2000.

Other positions adopted by Kauffman that are considered controversial to both the Left and the Right include his support for the Second Vermont Republic secessionist movement, his admiration for 1972 Democratic presidential nominee George McGovern, his argument that Catholic Worker activist Dorothy Day had much in common with elements of the Right, and his contention that Philip Roth's book The Plot Against America is "the novel that a neoconservative would write, if a neoconservative could write a novel." In 2004, he endorsed Ralph Nader for President of the United States. On September 2, 2008, he addressed the Rally for the Republic in Saint Paul, Minnesota put on by Ron Paul (R-TX).