Race riots???

[margomaps]

I used to participate in Zogby polls. They seemed to be all political and varied only a little.  From time to time I would see the result of another Zogby poll that I would like to have been involved in. I inquired  about why I was not invited to join in these and got no response. I think when polls come out the way they want, Zogby insures they stay that way.

Actually, Zogby is known somewhat for using suspect polling techniques.  One such technique would be to allow someone to seek out and join a poll he's interested in.  Self-selection completely defeats the one good, scientific thing opinion polls have going for them: random sampling.

[grasshopper]

  I can't wait until Obama doesn't come up with a valid birth certificate, as for the riots?  Where do I sign?  Riots sound like a LOT of fun.   If the inner city Obama folk try to come to Hookset with violence in mind and burning down houses ect. ect...  they will be met with angry neighbors with dogs and clubs.  We have already discussed this very scenario in our neighborhood and we are ready for a nice peacefull night on election night.
  I'm going to light a candle on election night at 9 PM to signify the nightmare that we will be in and for God to show his mercy on us, that is if I'm not at a party at the neighbors.....

[AnarchoJesse]

The stupidity in this thread is mind blowing.

[margomaps]

The stupidity in this thread is mind blowing.

WHAT?!!  I challenge you to show me at least FIFTEEN examples of stupidity in this thread.   

[K. Darien Freeheart]

I challenge you to show me at least FIFTEEN examples of stupidity in this thread

Does stupidity density count...

I don't trust those polls. They only matter if people answering have a reason to vote. I know that a LOT of the moderates feel less scared by McCain than they do with Obama. I've got SOCIALIST (actual, real European Socialists) who say they're afraid of Obama.

I think John McCain, or more specifically, Sarah Palin's joviality, may attract a lot of the moderate voters who simply haven't come to terms with that fact.

[margomaps]

I challenge you to show me at least FIFTEEN examples of stupidity in this thread

Does stupidity density count...

Oh, it counts alright.  And it takes a heavy toll. 

I don't trust those polls. They only matter if people answering have a reason to vote.

Yeah, there are plenty of reasons to explain why opinion polls are not -- and cannot -- be a perfect predictor of human behavior on election day.  It's perfectly reasonable to point out flaws in the polling methodology, the randomness of the sample, the quality of the responses, etc.  My eyelid only starts to twitch when the conversation veers into this absurd notion that the polling agencies are involved in some sort of conspiracy to make the results come out a certain way.   

I know that a LOT of the moderates feel less scared by McCain than they do with Obama. I've got SOCIALIST (actual, real European Socialists) who say they're afraid of Obama.

I know of a lot of neocons from the Bush administration who are voting for Obama -- they keep crawling out of the woodwork lately!    My point is, there's nothing invalid about anecdotal accounts, but one must be careful about making generalizations from them.  Whereas, the entire point of statistical sampling is to make generalizations.  The science is correct; the application of the science, and the underlying assumptions about human behavior do have some errors built in unfortunately.

[Pat K]

  I can't wait until Obama doesn't come up with a valid birth certificate, as for the riots?  Where do I sign?  Riots sound like a LOT of fun.   If the inner city Obama folk try to come to Hookset with violence in mind and burning down houses ect. ect...  they will be met with angry neighbors with dogs and clubs.  We have already discussed this very scenario in our neighborhood and we are ready for a nice peacefull night on election night.
  I'm going to light a candle on election night at 9 PM to signify the nightmare that we will be in and for God to show his mercy on us, that is if I'm not at a party at the neighbors.....

Yeah I heard Hookset will be at the top of the list.
Do you realize how big of a jackass you sound like?

[Tom Sawyer]

  I can't wait until Obama doesn't come up with a valid birth certificate, as for the riots?  Where do I sign?  Riots sound like a LOT of fun.   If the inner city Obama folk try to come to Hookset with violence in mind and burning down houses ect. ect...  they will be met with angry neighbors with dogs and clubs.  We have already discussed this very scenario in our neighborhood and we are ready for a nice peacefull night on election night.
  I'm going to light a candle on election night at 9 PM to signify the nightmare that we will be in and for God to show his mercy on us, that is if I'm not at a party at the neighbors.....

Yeah I heard Hookset will be at the top of the list.
Do you realize how big of a jackass you sound like?

Hey you can't talk to George Wallace like that! 

[Lloyd Danforth]

Yeah!  He'll jump out of his wheelchair and 'Pop' you one!

[Romak]

What are you talking about?

There are people right here in this forum who despise America (nationalism).
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The only thing I despise is how lazy and ignorant Americans have become. Its unfortunate that people in my age bracket(25-34) dint have a clue never mind an interest in politics and how it effects them. Or should I say the majority don't there are a few out there. Polls are biased to a great degree. If I spent a weekend driving around and counted one thousand signs in front of a thousand homes I think that would be as accurate as calling one thousand random people. I dont trust who they pick to call, I don't think its random by any means, I don't trust the people taking these polls to be honest, I most definitely don't trust the people calling to check off the proper box as to who the person said they would vote for, and in the end I don't trust the people who own these polling places. The sheeple out there are very influenced by popular opinion and if they see a bunch of polls saying Obama is going to win in a landslide they will do one of two things, jump on the bandwagon just to be cool or the ones who would've voted for Mccain may just stay home because its not worth voting at that point. Polls are very dangerous in my humble opinion. In the end its all about money. Grasshopper I have to agree on this one you don't sound a bit nuts with that post. Who in the world is going to target Hooksett to riot never mind NH in general.

[BillKauffman]

I know of a lot of neocons from the Bush administration who are voting for Obama -- they keep crawling out of the woodwork lately!

Neo-cons are the "Cuckoo birds" of political factions - they will lay their egg in any nest (political party) that they want to achieve their empire building/make the world safe for capitalism making goals.

Neo-cons started out as Trotskyites and then eventually migrated into the anti-communist, hawkish wing of the Democratic Party (Sen. Scoop Jackson) and then migrated (cuckoos) over to the Republican Party via Reagan. Paul Wolfowitz, Elliot Abrahms, Richard Perle, and Doug Feith all worked for Scoop Jackson as neo-cons.

[BillKauffman]

The only thing I despise is how lazy and ignorant Americans have become. Its unfortunate that people in my age bracket(25-34) dint have a clue never mind an interest in politics and how it effects them. Or should I say the majority don't there are a few out there. Polls are biased to a great degree. If I spent a weekend driving around and counted one thousand signs in front of a thousand homes I think that would be as accurate as calling one thousand random people. I dont trust who they pick to call, I don't think its random by any means, I don't trust the people taking these polls to be honest, I most definitely don't trust the people calling to check off the proper box as to who the person said they would vote for, and in the end I don't trust the people who own these polling places. The sheeple out there are very influenced by popular opinion and if they see a bunch of polls saying Obama is going to win in a landslide they will do one of two things, jump on the bandwagon just to be cool or the ones who would've voted for Mccain may just stay home because its not worth voting at that point. Polls are very dangerous in my humble opinion. In the end its all about money. Grasshopper I have to agree on this one you don't sound a bit nuts with that post. Who in the world is going to target Hooksett to riot never mind NH in general.

George Bush destroyed the Republican Party...John McCain had contemplated seriously switching to the Democratic Party after his defeat in 2000.

Barack Obama is no ideologue and will govern as a centrist...the difference between their policy as they govern would be negligible.

[grasshopper]

  That's my point, I'm kidding, there are no roving bans of anybody burning houses.  I was being morbidly sarcastic.  Jeeeez.
  Come on my friends, I couldn't see a time in any future "I'm in" that there are roving bans of crimminals like in Somalia.
  I do see kids doing the normal things though, drinking carrousing and having sex and throwing beer cans out of the cars.
   I'm concerned why there are army dudes ready to go into the big cities though.
  I'm going to stay local on election night, any parties? 

[Romak]

Hope you are all ready. Mccain is going to win on so called Independants going towards him in the last days. Osama will cry foul and the games will begin.

[BillKauffman]

Hope you are all ready. Mccain is going to win on so called Independants going towards him in the last days. Osama will cry foul and the games will begin.

If McCain wins (which is doubtful), Obama under no uncertain terms will cry foul just as Gore did not continue to take the 2000 election results to the streets.