Bill & Ivy arraignment and trial dates

[J’raxis 270145]

What:	Bill Walker, CCW trial in Manchester
When:	2009-03-30 08:00
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, sentencing hearing in Manchester
When:	2009-02-11 11:00
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, lic./reg. trial in Merrimack
When:	2009-01-08 09:15
Where:	Merrimack District Court, Merrimack, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, lic./reg. trial in Manchester, part 3
When:	2009-01-05 13:15
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, lic./reg. trial in Manchester, part 2
When:	2008-12-18 13:15
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, lic./reg. trial in Manchester
When:	2008-12-09 08:15
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, lic./reg. arraignment in Merrimack
When:	2008-12-05 08:15
Where:	Merrimack District Court, Merrimack, New Hampshire

What:	Ivy Walker, hearing on motion to return property in Manchester
When:	2008-12-02 08:15
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

What:	Bill Walker, CCW arraignment; Ivy, lic./reg. arraignment in Manchester
When:	2008-10-28 08:15
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

More info:—

http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=15667.0
https://www.nhteaparty.org/index.php/topic,1299.0.html

[shyfrog]

Update? Any news?

[J’raxis 270145]

Bill and Ivy plead not guilty to all charges.

The prosecutors (two uniformed police officers, just like in Keene) attempted to change the bail conditions to prohibit both of them from possessing firearms (Ivy's charges are not even firearms- or violence-related), consumption of "excessive" alcohol, &c.; Bill and Ivy both objected and the judge refused to change the bail conditions.

We had about a dozen supporters show up.

It started at 08:30 and ended around 10:00. All in all, the City of Manchester wasted about 90 minutes for each person—not counting travel time, gas, parking fees, &c.. (I wonder how many people get parking tickets while in court on some other petty violation. Nice racket...)

Ivy's trial is 2008-12-09. Bill's trial is 2009-02-09.

[Free libertarian]

 ...actually Bill plead "innocent" and the judge entered his plea as "not guilty".  I guess you're not allowed to plead "innocent".

[lastlady]

...actually Bill plead "innocent" and the judge entered his plea as "not guilty".  I guess you're not allowed to plead "innocent".

yeah.. I've always found that interesting.

[dalebert]

Their reason, as it was explained to me, was that innocent implies not guilty of anything ever. The legal implication would be that you are not guilty of any other crimes you might also be getting tried for or something. So "not guilty" means not guilty in this specific incident.

[MaineShark]

Their reason, as it was explained to me, was that innocent implies not guilty of anything ever. The legal implication would be that you are not guilty of any other crimes you might also be getting tried for or something. So "not guilty" means not guilty in this specific incident.

If you were actually "innocent until proven guilty," then "not guilty" makes sense as a plea: all the court would be looking at is potential guilt, and they would either find it or not.  You would have no reason to assert your innocence, because it would be assumed until proven otherwise.

Of course, the reality is that they presume you are guilty until proven innocent, so pleading your innocence makes sense...

Joe

[J’raxis 270145]

Their reason, as it was explained to me, was that innocent implies not guilty of anything ever. The legal implication would be that you are not guilty of any other crimes you might also be getting tried for or something. So "not guilty" means not guilty in this specific incident.

I think it's just because "innocent" means truly innocent, whereas "not guilty" can mean the verdict is either actual proven innocence, or that the government merely couldn't prove their case. In some other common law jurisdictions, an acquittal can actually be phrased as either "not guilty" or "not proven."

[J’raxis 270145]

/bump

What:	Ivy Walker, hearing on motion to return property
When:	2008-12-02 08:15
Where:	Manchester District Court, Manchester, New Hampshire

Just a reminder:  the hearing the court scheduled on my Motion for Return of Property is this coming Tuesday December 2nd, 2008 at Manchester District Court at 8:15am.  Anyone who can come out and attend in support would be much appreciated!

[Dave Ridley]

i dont think i'll be there on the 2nd.   assuming Ivy concurrs:

it would be great if someone could drop by the courthouse on monday, go to the clerk's office on the second floor, do their paperwork requesting permission to videotape, then come back next day and video-record the hearing, upload to youtube.

Getting these things filmed shouldn't be dependent on my availability. 

[J’raxis 270145]

Most of the discussion about this, including Ivy's description of events, is in the thread on NH Tea Party.

it would be great if someone could drop by the courthouse on monday, go to the clerk's office on the second floor, do their paperwork requesting permission to videotape, then come back next day and video-record the hearing, upload to youtube.

This, eh, sort of got done... but we did get a video of it.

https://www.nhteaparty.org/index.php/topic,1299.msg11755.html#msg11755
http://nhunderground.com/forum/index.php?topic=16291.msg274443#msg274443

[J’raxis 270145]

/bump

What:	Ivy Walker, "failure to appear" trial
When:	2008-12-05 08:15
Where:	Merrimack District Court, Merrimack, New Hampshire

Just added this; sorry to anyone who wants to go for the short notice. This is the trial/arraignment/whatever resulting from Ivy's arrest at the hearing on 2009-12-02.

[FTL_Ian]

So they gave her a "failure to appear" after they arrested her, preventing her appearance?  Sounds like the fix is in.   

[J’raxis 270145]

So they gave her a "failure to appear" after they arrested her, preventing her appearance?  Sounds like the fix is in.   

Apparently this is how they do things—serve outstanding warrants at the start of someone's court proceedings. The "failure to appear" thing was the result of another driving-while-suspended charge in Merrimack (where the asshole cops sit at the toll booths using them as unofficial Polizeiprüfpunkte).

Fortunately, it was sorted out and she was able to have her hearing, just late—after the cops told her she'd need to pay a $40 bail commissioner's fee to be let out, but ended up letting her out anyway, about half an hour later. (I'm not clear on exactly what happened here.)

Whether or not all of this is intentional or just typical bureaucracy-in-motion, I'm not sure: It does just seem that a lot of stuff that piled up on her slowly is now just all coming to a head at once. Now that they've got her, and Bill, forced into the court system over the stop in Manchester, they're just pulling out all of the outstanding citations and warrants because they have the opportunity.



More updates are posted to the NH Tea Party thread about today's happenings. Video will be coming soon.

[Fluff and Stuff]

Ok, I should be there Tuesday around 8am or so and I'll be staying in Manchester for Taproom Tuesday.  I'm just not sure what to do b/t the end of the trial and 5pm.