Kiddie Diddlers - Bad for the FSP!

[grasshopper]

  I used to work with a preditor, he spent time in jail for a 14Yo neice and in front Me and some friends who did NOT see what he did, his litte girl kept on hitting his crotch, like a game of tag, he said to his 4 yo girl, "We don't play that game here".
  I saw it, almost killed him!  I called the police, they didn't believe me as the other guys didn't want to get involved (there was a qp of pot there).   
  I havn't seen him sence.  He took off unaccosted, the cops told me to stay away from him.
  I think of his kid all the time, is she safe?  Has she been molested?  I herd 4 years ago he went away again.

[DigitalWarrior]

grasshopper, you showed more self control than someone else I know might have been able to.  I don't even think they would have thought to drag him out of the room so the 4 year old didn't see them kill the abuser.

By the way, it is important to recognize that the girl is another victim of the war on some drugs, resulting in her continued sexual abuse.

[SpeedPhreak]

I have never heard protection from force and fraud repressing the will of the free.  Is there something I can read about that, because it seems a bit odd to me?

From Wiki -

Law - is a system of rules, enforced through a set of institutions, used as an instrument to underpin civil obedience, politics, economics and society. Law serves as the foremost social mediator in relations between people.

Liberty - the freedom to act or believe without being stopped by unnecessary force. In modern time, is generally considered a concept of political philosophy and identifies the condition in which an individual has the ability to act according to his or her own will.

So by definition they are opposite - inversely proportional. Every law acts to suppress the will of someone.  I don't personally use drugs - I personally am unaffected by anti-drug legislation - but it is wrong & I oppose it because people who enjoy drugs are being denied their free will.

From - http://www.renewamerica.us/columns/duke/040121
There sure is a way freedom can be measured and it's really quite simple: a nation's degree of freedom will be inversely proportional to the number of laws it has enacted. In other words, the more laws you have the less free you are. This is because a law by definition is the removal of a freedom; it states that there's something you cannot do or something you must do. And, needless to say, if there's something you cannot do, you're not free to do it — if there's something you must do, you aren't free to do otherwise.

I'm not suggesting, though others may, that we live with a complete absence of law.  However, it needs to be very limited.  Thou shall not murder (or initiate force), thou shall not steal, anything other than that really is personal/parental responsibility.  I would support prison for real child molesters & rapists because it is an initiation of force... denying them choice.

Liberty means responsibility.  That is why most men dread it.  ~George Bernard Shaw

re-written

[SpeedPhreak]

  I used to work with a preditor, he spent time in jail for a 14Yo neice and in front Me and some friends who did NOT see what he did, his litte girl kept on hitting his crotch, like a game of tag, he said to his 4 yo girl, "We don't play that game here".
  I saw it, almost killed him!  I called the police, they didn't believe me as the other guys didn't want to get involved (there was a qp of pot there).   
  I havn't seen him sence.  He took off unaccosted, the cops told me to stay away from him.
  I think of his kid all the time, is she safe?  Has she been molested?  I herd 4 years ago he went away again.

Due to the circumstances - it, sadly, was probably what it appeared to be.

what if it wasn't?  what if the game was one where he taught her to hit men there if she was in danger?

[grasshopper]

  That would get his attention but for the undenialable fact that he had sopent time in Prison for screwing his Neice forcably, it wouldn't have botthered me.
  Years ago I was kind of violent, I have changed.  I could have gotten into a he said he said war with no way to win but, What would you have done?
  No, the kid was laughing and having fun, evidently it was a game.
  Children being abused has been something that came up in my 4th grade year. 
  I had a girlfriend (ya, a kiddie in love)  and she told me the things her Mom made her do to her boyfriend, she committed sewicide in the early 90s and her Brother died of an overdose.  Those adults, if they are still alive are directly responcible for their deaths.
  sAs a kid, I didn't know enough to tell my Mom, I had nothing to go on, no starting point.
I have a friend that was raped when she was 14.  i met her and she was a mess.  No. preditors are the types pf people that need to be monitored for ever, even if they turned a new page in their lives, trust but with verification.

[AntonLee]

By the way, it is important to recognize that the girl is another victim of the war on some drugs, resulting in her continued sexual abuse.

good point Digital!