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Porc 411: SPCA and Police en route to home in Candia NH

Started by leetninja, November 04, 2008, 12:02 PM NHFT

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ancapagency

I would be seriously looking at a few things:

1)  Do the actions of Steve Sprowell of the NHSPCA constitute impersonating an officer?

2)  The actions of the arresting officer (to whit, handing a firearm to Sprowel in the course of an arrest) would seem to be a serious breach.

3)  Does the arrest constitute false arrest under the law? 

Both the officer and Mr. Sprowell  should face serious disciplinary action, if not termination from employment for their actions.

error

I don't know if you want to pursue this, but this incident seems to qualify as a civil rights violation for which the federal government will prosecute the police officer shown in this video.

If you pursue this, the police officer could face as much as 10 years in federal prison.

EDITED: I was wrong. For the violation of federal law I witnessed in this video, this police officer could face life in prison or even the death penalty, though anything more than 10 years seems unlikely.

QuoteTo file a color of law complaint, contact your local FBI office by telephone, in writing, or in person. The following information should be provided:

• all identifying information for the victim(s);
• as much identifying information as possible for the subject(s), including position, rank, and
  agency employed;
• date and time of incident;
• location of incident;
• names, addresses, and telephone numbers of any witness(es);
• a complete chronology of events; and
• any report numbers and charges with respect to the incident.

TackleTheWorld

Just talked to Steve Sprowl, asked him if it was better to load or unload a handgun when if was handed to you.  He said what?  I said you tube shows him loading a handgun and offered suggestions on how to unload a handgun.  He said, "We DID unload the handgun so mind your own business." and hung up.   
:)

Kat Kanning


Lumpy

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on November 05, 2008, 08:41 AM NHFT
Just talked to Steve Sprowl, asked him if it was better to load or unload a handgun when if was handed to you.  He said what?  I said you tube shows him loading a handgun and offered suggestions on how to unload a handgun.  He said, "We DID unload the handgun so mind your own business." and hung up.   
:)
So, do you think he fancies that you will "mind your own business" now?   ;)

slim

Quote from: TackleTheWorld on November 05, 2008, 08:41 AM NHFT
Just talked to Steve Sprowl, asked him if it was better to load or unload a handgun when if was handed to you.  He said what?  I said you tube shows him loading a handgun and offered suggestions on how to unload a handgun.  He said, "We DID unload the handgun so mind your own business." and hung up.   
:)

I guess Steve thinks everyone should stay in line, eyes forward, no looking around. We should also all respond "yes massa, what ever you say massa"


Dan

Quote from: slim on November 05, 2008, 09:01 AM NHFT
Quote from: TackleTheWorld on November 05, 2008, 08:41 AM NHFT
Just talked to Steve Sprowl, asked him if it was better to load or unload a handgun when if was handed to you.  He said what?  I said you tube shows him loading a handgun and offered suggestions on how to unload a handgun.  He said, "We DID unload the handgun so mind your own business." and hung up.   
:)

I guess Steve thinks everyone should stay in line, eyes forward, no looking around. We should also all respond "yes massa, what ever you say massa"

Right.  You mind your business --while I just poke around your property.

Lumpy



Right.  You mind your business --while I just poke around your property.
[/quote]
EXACTLY!

grasshopper

  With these assholes, if the gun DID go off, you 2 would probably be dead now.  That Incompitent assmunch should NOT touch guns if he doesn't know what he is doing.  If the cops herd the gun go off they would revert to training and kill everybody around them.  The assholes.

doobie

Quote from: grasshopper on November 05, 2008, 11:03 AM NHFT
  With these assholes, if the gun DID go off, you 2 would probably be dead now.  That Incompitent assmunch should NOT touch guns if he doesn't know what he is doing.  If the cops herd the gun go off they would revert to training and kill everybody around them.  The assholes.

No, if the cop were shot by the SPCA guy, Cooper would have been to blame and have been arrested for shooting a law enforcement officer.

Jacobus

So can someone show up at the SPCA man's house and demand to inspect his house (check to see that he isn't misusing milk crates or something), and if he refuses call the cops?

SamIam

Quote from: ancapagency on November 04, 2008, 09:12 PM NHFT
I would be seriously looking at a few things:

1)  Do the actions of Steve Sprowell of the NHSPCA constitute impersonating an officer?

2)  The actions of the arresting officer (to whit, handing a firearm to Sprowel in the course of an arrest) would seem to be a serious breach.

3)  Does the arrest constitute false arrest under the law? 

Both the officer and Mr. Sprowell  should face serious disciplinary action, if not termination from employment for their actions.


If you want to go after these guys beyond harassing phone calls, there is a way. It's going to take some work, but it's about the only way to hold these people accountable. Number one you will need to find specific laws that were broken. False Arrest/False Imprisonment are not crimes in some states, so the charge may be kidnapping. If a gun was involved then it becomes aggravated kidnapping.

Next you write that up as a criminal complaint (this needs to be a fact eye witness with direct knowledge). I can fax an example of a criminal complaint if you need one. Nothing special about them, need to be notarized and certified as true and correct. Take it to the prosecutor for the city/county. When he refuses to prosecute and throws it in the trash, then you file a criminal complaint against him. (referencing the NH law he violated, like shielding from prosecution) You can prepare this before you even go see him. Once he does, then you need to ask him when the grand jury meets next. If he won't answer, that's another crime, and you can go to the next attorney. If you capture this all on camera, It's would be even better. 

When they meet next, take the sworn criminal complaints against the officer and the prosecutor and present them to the foreman of the grand jury, just as the BLG does when you break the law. This will get their attention.

I think there are plenty of charges here, chain of custody violations when he handed off Cooper's firearm, etc. They also violated your due process rights when he pointed his cruiser towards the police station instead of the nearest magistrate. The officer who gave you the stern talking to, he became an accessory fi you were not arrested by a police officer and were infact kidnapped, and you can include him if you want. Having the charges outlined against the entire BLG will show the grand jury the criminal enterprise working against you; Clearly demonstrating that you have no choice but to go directly to them, and they will take you very seriously. (and have no idea what to do with your complaint)



FTL_Ian

I presume silence means they haven't come back with their "warrant".