What is the anarchist game plan?

[rowland]

Everyone tells me to blow you guys off and frankly I can see why but i want to give you all one last chance. Answer the following question succinctly, clearly and precisely:

What is the anarchist game plan to get government off our backs?

I want to make sure you understand the question:

Not your philosophy. Your GAME PLAN.

Not your goals. Your GAME PLAN.

Not what you'd like to see happen. Your GAME PLAN.

Not your revenge fantasies. Your GAME PLAN.

There are people out there who have game plans that aren't working. You're all taking cheap shots at them and acting superior because their game plans aren't working. But at least they're trying.

How about you guys put your money where your mouths are. DO YOU HAVE A GAME PLAN? Even a bad one?

[Kat Kanning]

My only goal is to fuck over politicos.

[Mike Barskey]

My goal to get government off my back is: to live free, like the government isn't on my back.

I can't tell you how much it grieves me that you may blow me off because of this. Wait, yes I can: it won't grieve me at all. Blow away.

[dalebert]

Everyone tells me to blow you guys off and frankly I can see why but i want to give you all one last chance.

One last chance for what? To earn your approval.  Crap, Mike beat me to it.

Everyone is active in their own way in what makes them comfortable. We're all individuals and we come together for events when someone organizes something to the extent that each individual is inspired and interested to do so. There is no "game plan" or plan of attack. We are wrenches in the machines of aggressive organizations with game plans and plans of attack. We're inspiring people to move here of their own volition and get active in whatever way they feel passionate about. If you want more info than that, it's available. Follow the forums, this one and FreeKeene.com. Listen to FTL. Not your fucking bitch. Not going to go back over months of activities and summarize and spoon feed it to you. It is a very tired old line that we aren't doing anything because we're not doing what YOU want us to do. If you don't like it, I promise not to force you to participate and I'm not going to troll YOUR forums.

[Mike Barskey]

It is a very tired old line that we aren't doing anything because we're not doing what YOU want us to do. If you don't like it, I promise not to force you to participate and I'm not going to troll YOUR forums.

Well said!

[Chemist]

What is the anarchist game plan to get government off our backs?

I've been a libertarian for more than a decade and I have voted in every election as a libertarian (even in 2008).  I have been a libertarian "activist" (used the term loosely) for just as long and have been involved in all sorts of libertarian groups.  What has the result been?  My state of IN has turned more socialist.  I have not seen the local party grow at all.  I feel I am steps behind where I started 10 years ago.

Now I see the videos coming out of NH from real activists.  There are people telling the police that they will not stop filming or recording  or that police are not welcome on their property.  The activists in NH seem to be making a strong and effective point whereas my efforts here get swept away every election. 

I am in the process of growing to understand these things:
The government only has power if people recognize it. 
A libertarian government would still be government and there would still be arbitrary lines to draw. 

Game plan?  I am starting to like civil disobedience.   

[Mike Barskey]

I see another game plan in your post: learning about yourself, growing as a person, finding out what makes you happy.

[dalebert]

I see another game plan in your post: learning about yourself, growing as a person, finding out what makes you happy.

I still like all the activism efforts underway and I feel really optimistic about the progress we're making. In a way, we're training police to respect innocent people and get back to being something closer to peace officers by standing up for ourselves when we're not doing anything wrong, and so on. However, let's not forget the things that really matter along the way.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=onK2bzuwRNc

[rowland]

What is the anarchist game plan to get government off our backs?

I've been a libertarian for more than a decade and I have voted in every election as a libertarian (even in 2008).  I have been a libertarian "activist" (used the term loosely) for just as long and have been involved in all sorts of libertarian groups.  What has the result been?  My state of IN has turned more socialist.  I have not seen the local party grow at all.  I feel I am steps behind where I started 10 years ago.

Now I see the videos coming out of NH from real activists.  There are people telling the police that they will not stop filming or recording  or that police are not welcome on their property.  The activists in NH seem to be making a strong and effective point whereas my efforts here get swept away every election. 

I am in the process of growing to understand these things:
The government only has power if people recognize it. 
A libertarian government would still be government and there would still be arbitrary lines to draw. 

Game plan?  I am starting to like civil disobedience.   

Thank you for addressing the question I asked  and in an intelligent fashion. This is close to what i was looking for.

I agree that civil disobedience should come into the picture at some point. I'm not quite willing to make it my ENTIRE game plan but I've contemplated it as a component.

[Lumpy]

Game plan?  I am starting to like civil disobedience.   
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Here here!   
It sure seems that people over here on this forum are far happier about their choices.

Nothing is as hard to do gracefully as getting down off your high horse. -Frank Jones

How many cares one loses when one decides not to be something but to be someone. -Coco Chanel

[Russell Kanning]

Everyone tells me to blow you guys off and frankly I can see why but i want to give you all one last chance.

Who is "everyone"?
Is "you guys" everyone on this forum?
We have one last chance to do what?

Answer the following question succinctly, clearly and precisely:
What is the anarchist game plan to get government off our backs?
I want to make sure you understand the question:
Not your philosophy. Your GAME PLAN.
Not your goals. Your GAME PLAN.
Not what you'd like to see happen. Your GAME PLAN.
Not your revenge fantasies. Your GAME PLAN.

You question was not very succinct, but let me ask "the anarchist" what his game plan is ....

he says he will make an announcement tonight ... he has a big grin on his face and a funny mustache

[Kat Kanning]

You expect to come here blasting people and then get an "intelligent response"? 

[J’raxis 270145]

http://www.nhliberty.org/forum/index.php?topic=1362.0

I wish the anti-political people (like Ian) would lay off the mocking and denigration of political activism.

However, considering how thoroughly the political "game plan" got thrashed last night, it's hardly time to start demanding that the other side—who's actually been more successful at what they're trying to accomplish—start emulating us, with long-term strategies, so-called game plans, and such.

It's a disheartening defensive pattern of "tribalist" behavior from both factions, no doubt. And yeah, (good natured) gloating can be motivational, and even empirically justified sometimes. But I've seen many examples of downright verbal cruelty and contempt going both ways (as if the other is somehow the most heinous of their myriad enemies), and it really sickens me. I think there's certainly room -- and potential success -- enough for both (all?). Preferably at least working peacefully, even if we can never hope for mostly cooperatively.

On the other hand, didn't I see someone's figures somewhere that 59% of the liberty candidates got themselves elected? Is that accurate? If so, is that not really amazing in these seemingly overly troubled statist-leaning times, and justifiable cause for celebration? Is there another state that can claim such a relative success? I assume we'll have even more running in 2 years, and more 2 years after that. What if we can maintain that batting average? What if in, say, 4 years, we have 300 running, and still get at least 59%? What could a caucus of 170 do...?

[Puke]

The fact that you ask what "the anarchist game plan" is shows serious ignorance about anarchists.

[Lumpy]

The fact that you ask what "the anarchist game plan" is shows serious ignorance about anarchists.

I don't believe in anarchism.  I believe fully in government...  so long as it's me, free to do the governing.